eHarmony Advice

5 October 2009

Ultimate profile photo sins

by eHarmony

If your eHarmony profile isn't generating the interest you'd hoped, maybe you need to take a second look at your profile photo. Have you committed one of our top five profile photo sins?

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When you start online dating it’s easy to spend a lot of time writing your profile, and then hope that any half-decent picture will do. But if your profile isn’t generating the communication you’d hoped for you may need to take a second look at your photo.

Now, this is by no means a comment on your appearance, it’s simply that there are some kinds of photos that just don’t work for online dating profiles. The fact that you’ve put yourself out there, looking for a relationship, is a big step.  So you can give yourself a pat on the back for that.

We’re not talking about Photoshopping your image to make you look younger or thinner. It’s the more subtle points about profile pictures that really matter. Here are our top five profile photo no-nos. You might be surprised.

1. Photos where you’ve removed an ex
There’s this great picture of you, but unfortunately you’ve got your arm round an old flame. In this situation it’s so tempting to simply cut out the other person, but unless you’re a graphic designer don’t even try. For one thing, the photo will just be a constant reminder of your ex, and for another it doesn’t give a great impression to potential admirers.

2. You and your celebrity ‘friend’
Less common than ‘you on a drunken night out’, but the celeb friend still a worrying trend. If you met David Beckham once then that’s great, but if you have that photo as your profile picture on an online dating site you’re just going to look like someone standing next to a celebrity. If you do happen to be friends with David Beckham, you still shouldn’t have him in your picture. It suggests insecurity that you don’t think you have enough to offer just as yourself – which of course you do!

3. The grainy webcam/camera phone photo
Your profile picture doesn’t have to look like it was taken by David Bailey, but thinking you can get away with a small, grainy webcam or camera phone picture isn’t good enough. For one thing, it looks like you can’t really be bothered to upload a good photo of yourself.  We’re not saying all camera phone pictures are a no-no; some are great quality, just be careful. And if in doubt, ask a friend whose opinion you admire.

4. You showing off
Whether you’re behind the wheel of your Mercedes or brandishing a Chanel handbag in your photo, it’s probably going to be clear you’re showing off. And that just gives off the impression that you’re superficial – even if you’re not. However, if your hobby involves expensive things, such as doing up classic cars then this is less of a problem. Just be sure the photo is demonstrating you doing something you love, and not just that you own an Aston Martin DB5.

5.  You on a drunken night out with friends
You think a photo of you in a bar with your friends makes you look fun and outgoing, others think you look like a soggy mess who refuses to stay in of an evening.  We’re not saying there’s anything wrong with a photo of you taken with friends, just don’t look like you’ve been awake for 30 hours and have just downed five shots of Sambuca.

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Comments

1

Jodie

15 October 2009 11:13

Oops I did the first one … but i get a much better response now I’ve taken a new picture!

2

Ross Alexander

15 October 2009 11:38

Definitely agree with these pointers. I am really turned off by drunken photos. Personally to me it makes it look like the girl lacks imagination of how to have a good time and it doesn’t tell me she is going to be a reliable, level headed, trustworthy, caring person even if she is.

I also give poor photos a miss as like it says, it’s like the person can’t be bothered. Like it or not, guys unlike girls are very attracted by looks and no guy wants to have an uncomfortable surprise when the photo doesn’t match up to reality. Put some clear accurate photos up and everyone is happier. Same goes for writing the truth in your profile.

3

Joan

15 October 2009 12:31

Double oops, originally the only photo of me close-up on my own was a late, after the hen party haze. After Reading this page I have taken one on my Iphone, hope it doesn’t fall into same category.

4

lucy

15 October 2009 12:53

after reading your advice,i will now change my photo frofile, and give more serious thought as to how i should portray myself. well done eharmony.

5

Jenny

15 October 2009 14:36

As much as guys (sorry Ross) like to think that girls are not concerned by what a guy looks like, they do care and don’t want to be surprised when they show up for a date either.

Not putting up a photo at all is worse than all those advice points listed above. You have taken all the time to write up a profile (and we all know how long it took!) and then you can’t be bothered to post a photo. That to me says that you are even less committed than those that post terrible photos of themselves.

6

Pete

15 October 2009 21:46

Hi,

Good article. The sixth switch-off is the photo of you with a mate where it is not clear who is who.

7

Alex

16 October 2009 12:13

good article , but I can add a couple
which I found a real turn and are so obviuos. Guys of 50 wearing baseball cap, one asks does he have any hair or is he completely bald, does he think he is still a teenager.
Also guys with there adoring children , very nice to show later that I am a caring Dad, but who are you trying to attract, a Mummy or are they saying look I am a package ?

8

rooms

19 October 2009 15:03

my photo must be really hoorible as you have’nt got me one match so far.glad your the BEST.works for me. not.

9

eharmony

19 October 2009 16:00

In reply to ‘rooms:

Hi there,
Your feedback is very important to us. We are sorry to hear you are not having the experience you hoped for with eHarmony. However, our Customer Care team have a few suggestions for you which may make your eHarmony experience more satisfactory.

They have suggested you review and reconsider your Match Settings–particularly around distance and personal preferences. If you are open to broadening some of these criteria, the likelihood increases that we can find you matches who are not only highly compatible with you but also meet your Match Settings criteria. For example, by simply moving your desired age range by a few years, you could find new compatible matches that you will really click with.

To access your Match Settings page and make changes to your preferences, please follow the steps below:

1. Log into your eHarmony account
2. Click the My Settings tab at the top of the page
3. Click the Match Settings link
4. Choose the setting you would like to update

Once you have made your selections, please make sure to click on the ‘save and continue’ button.

If you have any more questions please check the FAQs (http://help-singles.eharmony.co.uk/cgi-bin/eharmony_singlesuk.cfg/php/enduser/guided_alp.php) or contact our Customer Care team by email via the ‘Email us your question’ tab on the FAQs page.

Best,
eHarmony Advice UK Moderator

10

Steph

18 November 2009 17:29

What I find a real turn off is photos of men hurtling through the countryside on bikes, on foot, on a motorbike ,jumping out of a plane, shooting the rapids etc like Action Man. Invariably you cant even see their face and lets face it, it could be anyone couldn’t it?! Also, stripped to the waist, flexing their muscles like He Man is an absolutely desperate look. I’d rather see a guy with a book in his hand…

11

Alan

18 November 2009 23:01

Two more common mistakes with uploaded photos:

1 Where the person is so tiny that you can not see her/him.

2 Where there are several people in the picture and the viewer can not tell which of them is you.

12

Chris

20 November 2009 14:41

Great article,the pitfalls are there but so many do it ! Further on to the quality of the picture,the age also.I once had a contact on a different site who’s pic was ten years old,needless to say the up to date one prtrayed a different person !
I agree with steph about the boneheads with thier tops off or indeed women who have had a glamourous shot done on a makeover weekend.
Have to disagree with Alex.If someone doesnt accept you as a package if you have kids,thats fine look elsewhere ! I’m proud of having a daughter and even prouder to be seen with her.She doesn’t need a replacement mum,I’m here for me.

13

Paula Bianca

20 November 2009 16:33

I have to disagree with Chris’s comment and agree with Alex’s with regard to photos of men or women with their children in them. You seem very clear on what you want (not a replacment Mum) but you should try and understand how things may appar to women you are matched with. Whilst many people are open to meeting partners who have children, I think putting them in a photo too strongly focuses on this aspect of who you are. We are making an initial judgment on the adult match here, not their children. There are ways to demonstrate how important children are in someone’s life other than placing them in a photo. Often the written profile does this. A recent nice profile photo of a guy was of him on his own, but in his additional photos, there were photos with his children. I think this is a better balance. Definitely worse is a) no photo at all b) photos that were taken a long time ago and c) men with behind the wheel of a ridiculously expensive car/motorbike!

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Andrea

21 November 2009 16:14

Call me cynical but before I uploaded a photo (and it didn’t fall into any of the above categories) I had a few interested matches, one of which was just on the brink of ‘open communication’.
After I uploaded it….absolutely nothing-go figure that one.
I agree I am no supermodel but I didn’t realise I was that much of a turn off! It’s done wonders for my self esteem as you can imagine……

15

Richard

21 November 2009 17:03

One Other Deadly Sin

You might want to show that you have your own friends or your best photos might be the ones with you and your friends on them. Before you use one of these photos, STOP, it just creates confusion or problems down the road.

Firstly, if there are multiple people how does the match work out which one is you? They certainly will not think you got too many brain cells and will usually move on. Alternatively, they may think your one of the other people on the photo and at best be disappointed and at worst ask you for the phone number of the person they really fancy!

Unless you want to invite all your friends on your first date, just use a photo of you.

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mike

23 November 2009 00:16

The worst are those that post no pic at all – and members have to check each and every profile each time to see if one’s been uploaded – why don’t eharmony put a little thumbnail picture beside the name?? then we’d al know who’s posted pictures and who can’t be bothered. Would make life a lot easier for ALL members

17

Kay

25 November 2009 22:52

Hi

I uploaded a photo when i set up my profile and it seemed to go through ok. Then I logged in today to be told my photo has been rejected and i need to load another one – but no feedback as to why it had been rejected.

I had something similar with another dating website whereby they rejected all my photo’s one by one until, after the 5th one, i decided to withdraw my subscription as i felt i would never manage to find one they found suitable.

Can i get some feedback on what may have been wrong with my piccie? It was a face shot, jus me, no glasses, or hat, and a picture of me that i’ve had plenty of compliments about from friends, hence my desire to use it.

Thanks

18

eharmony

26 November 2009 10:57

Hi there Kay,

Thank you for your feedback. Assuming the email address you have provided here is correct, we will forward your details onto our Customer Care team and they will be in touch if they have any feedback. In the meantime, here are a few practical profile photo pointers:

* Make sure the photo isn’t dark, or grainy
* It is a good size for upload (i.e. not a thumbnail)
* It is appropriate (no nudity, etc)

Thanks,
eHarmony Advice

19

barry

26 November 2009 13:41

Why dont eharmony make it a requirement to post a photo as lets be honest looks are important, they are not the most important thing but you have to feel an attraction to someone.

20

Dan

26 November 2009 22:24

Definetely agree with Mike, having a thumbnail pop up with the matches photo/lack of photo when you hover over them would make things a lot easier. It does this on the ‘who’s viewed me’ section on your homepage but nowhere else.

I totally agree with whats been said here as far as taking a good photo goes. If you’re really looking for a meaningfull long-term relationship, then the least you could do is spend 30 minutes getting a really good picture of yourself done.

21

Dawn

27 November 2009 17:20

Hello eharmony

I have completed my personality profile and have received no matches. I have checked my photo and that is fine. You say to broaden my options but I am attracted to black men and are you telling me that in the whole of England that there is not one black man that is compatible. I feel disapointed. Please respond.

22

Maryse Anand

30 November 2009 18:48

In the seven months since I registered, I have yet to receive a response. Although I received a good number of matches, not one has even looked at my profile. I know I am not everyone’s cup of tea, but how would they know if they have not even looked at my profile?
I am 65 and of course I do not look as stunning as when I was 30 years younger, but I still look presentable.
Can eharmony advice team give me some feedback on my pictures or profile?

I also agree with Jenny, Mike, Barry and Dan: In my matches about 90% did not send a photo to go with their profile. BUT…. when you sign up and you get some guidelines on how to write your profile, eHarmony advices to wait with sending a picture of oneself.

23

eharmony

1 December 2009 14:47

Hi Dawn,

Thank you for your feedback. I have passed your query onto our Customer Care team who will be be happy to help.

Best wishes,
eHarmony Advice

24

eharmony

1 December 2009 14:53

Hi Maryse,

Thank you for your feedback. I have passed your query onto our Customer Care team who will be be happy to help.

Best wishes,
eHarmony Advice

25

Karl

9 December 2009 11:22

Hi I’m actually one of the biggest sinners as I do not currently have a profile picture and this is through choice!

It’s not because I’m concerned about my image, I’m actually pretty comfortable with it, my concern however is more with who will actually see it. I currently hold a post within the frontline public services and am concerned with members of the general public potentially recognising me from this site leading to awkward situations and professional compromise.

I do not see the lack of photo as a problem as after all we are all mostly looking for something far deeper than just physical attraction and lust! If we communicate and get along I’ll happily send a photo.

Just wondered what others think about this?

26

Al

10 December 2009 01:37

Totally agree with Karl about photo’s. I to am a public servant and I feel it would undermine my professionalism if I have to start justifying my private social life to parents of the children I teach. My own children have also requested that I don’t post a photo as they have had friends teased when their parents have posted a profile with a photo. A lot of people on this site have children already and like it or not, they are a major factor in the success or longevity of any relationship that might develop. Whilst I wouldn’t invade my children’s privacy by posting a photo of them online, it is only right to make it clear to prospective partners that they effectively have to pass scrutiny of any children. They are not baggage, they are a blessing and it does take a special person to go into a relationship where there are already children: you are effectively asking them to love your children as well as you… hope this doesn’t put too many people off?!

27

Sam

14 December 2009 00:49

I don’t like having my photo posted on the site and have recently removed it for fear of it being seen by someone I know professionally-especially as your real first name is posted next to it.Why isn’t there a feature that enables you to release it to specific people only especially as this can be done with your personality profile?

It would also be helpful to know who is a subscribed member.

28

tracy

15 December 2009 23:50

I would like to make a comment about photo’s with children
I really do not like having my photo taken, therefore i only have 2 photo’s in my posession.
1 with my daughter, and 1 i quickley took.
I think it is just telling the other person that yes i do have children/child.

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Chris

28 December 2009 15:10

Although I have posted a photo of myself I too am worried that someone will see it and undermine me in my profesional capacity. However I justify it by asking myself what are they doing on this site as well.

I’m assuming you have to be a member to view pics?

30

Annette

30 December 2009 14:12

In my opinion main pics should always be a headshot. I find it frustrating to look at full length photos of men (usually activity shots) as you can’t see the character or expression in the face very well. I think the fun activity shots make good supplementary pics rather than main ones.

31

Sandie

31 December 2009 11:16

I have to say that the pics most likely to put me off are the semi-naked men usually lying on a bed. They just look sad and desperate or worse just looking for sexual conquests. Also, I agree with Annette I like to see a pic of a man close up so I can see his eyes and expression.

32

Claire

31 December 2009 12:55

I agree with Karl, Ann and Sam that for a professional and not only in the public sector, this can be a mine field and the idea put forward that you only release a photograph to those you wish to see it is a very good one.

33

JJ

31 December 2009 14:19

Hi,
The photo’s that really put me off are the ones of men cuudling a child on their lap. I think they must think it makes them look like family people. NO, no, it doesn’t! I’m sorry – but it makes you look at best, creepy; at worst, like a paedophile. I hate to see children being used as ‘accessories’ in this way. Please guys, stand away from the kids. Thank you! :-)

34

Dee

2 January 2010 22:05

Internet dating is no longer a thing to be ashamed of.No one is trawling the internet to find embarassing photo’s of a single collegue anymore, maybe they did five years ago when it was more a taboo. However most people accept that meeting a new partner in today’s work mad world is difficult. I went out with the girls into Town a few nights ago and was hit on by men twenty years older than me that obviously thought work was an optional extra, the ones that were spotty teenagers were even worse. Not much good for a delicate ego. Luckily I am a person that see life as a giggle and love the experience of being with friends and laughing at the dangers of the dance floor. Internet dating is something that is here to stay, no one is going to find someone unless they are prepared to take a chance and that has to start with a photo, while a great personality is wonderful if you find six foot tall blondes attractive I’m not going to be your cup of tea no matter what a wonderful person I am. Stop being chicken and take a chance, it will pay off in the future and at least you’ll have some good stories for the staff room.

35

Mike

5 January 2010 04:20

I am also in the front line public services, but have never had a problem with the picture, providing not shown in work clobber who cares , I have spotted people I work with and they have spotted me , big deal, the chances of a member of the public recognising me are slim. Most single people have tried one or more sites and perfectly acceptable now days.
I also agree with the comments about out of date pictures , what is the point , I also avoid gals who post glamour shots or B&W pics and it is helpful to see a full length shot amongst the pics.
The most amusing picture I saw was a gal posing with her Alsation , both had equal share of the photo, I couldn’t resist asking which one she was.
I don’t see the point of people posting pics with their arms round their ex partners or amongst a group of friends, firstly did they ask to be put on a dating website as well and often difficult to spot which one is the actually match. Re posing with kids again don’t see the point , just mention it in your profile and why stick your kids picture on a dating website?

It would be helpful if EH allowed members only to get matches with a picture as my view is I have made the effort, so should you , what are they hiding??, if no picture I just close the match

36

Denise

5 January 2010 15:43

I uploaded a photo, but have just had a message telling me that someone has asked to see a photo of me! Did I do anything wrong – and if so, what?

37

Holly

5 January 2010 23:52

I never post a photo. I once had nasty experience with some creep a few years ago on another site which wasn’t as monitored as this one. And agree with the comment In fact it put me off all sites for a couple of years. If someone likes my profile ask for a photo and I will send one. If you are registered and a member AND a phycho at least someone can trace you. Why can’t people just be decent. I have been really happy with my matches even if it hasn’t gone anywhere yet.

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Sebastian

6 January 2010 09:17

As far as I’m concerned, the biggest problem with photos is when they are not honest. Of course, no-one wants to post a photo that makes them look bad, but your photo must be fair: as long as it isn’t so bad as to put people off, that’s all you need! Think about when you actually first meet with your matches: if you have a photo which is honest, or even a little plain, the person you are meeting will just be pleased to see you and recognise you, and they may even be pleasantly surprised – being told that your phto doesn’t do you justice really cheers yo up at the start of a date! However, if your photo promises more than you can deliver, their initial feeling will be one of disappointment and, no matter how great your personality,that’s a hard first impression to recover from!

39

Gareth

6 January 2010 12:48

Hello everyone, it is interesting that i appear to be told by sites to do two things:
1) increase my age range from the 32 – 38 i have currently set (I am 43)
2) Increase the distance in which i am searching from the current 20 miles.

My doubled edged sword is that the age range is set as I would like to have a family of my own so reality dictates that we would have to be together at least 2 years so any older is getting tricky and any younger woulkd make me feel like a dirty old man.
Distance is also a bug bear as further than 20 miles and it would drastically reduce the time we could be together.

Is it really too much to ask to find a lady who is in her 30’s who wants a serious relationship with at least the potential of having children within 20 miles which encapsulates over 2 million people?

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eharmony

7 January 2010 16:11

Hi Denise,

Thank you for your comments. Photos take a day or so to be approved by our Customer Care team. There may have been a crossover between your photo being approved and your match asking to see your photo. If you have any more issues please contact our Customer Care team here:

http://help-singles.eharmony.co.uk/app/ask

Best wishes,
eHarmony Advice

41

Lyn

8 January 2010 01:43

I am mystified by all these guys who are so nervous about being recognised. Their photos would only be seen by members of the site anyway and it would be unlikely for their male colleagues to see the photos (unless they were looking for other men!) I have never had any negative reactions when I tell people I have met someone on the internet. Don’t forget how many millions of single/divorced/widowed people there are. How else can they get together these days? Gone are the days of Pride & Prejudice! I also consider photos to be essential part of a profile.

42

Mike

8 January 2010 13:19

Gareth

I’m in the same situation still hoping for a family , I have been honest with my profile and have mentioned it in my profile write up.
What is annoying is that quite a few ladies put maybe re the kids question, but when asked after you get to the open communication round ,say they don’t want kids , why bother be honest ,if you are a maybe you either want them or you would consider it if you met the right person, etc , putting it just to hedge your bets again just wastes time like the out of date / air brushed pictures.

I appreciate can why some women avoid posting pictures but lets be honest even with all this compatibility malarky , the first bite is with the eye, no picture reduces your chances no matter how good your description, so if you are that bothered re stalkers and sex fiends maybe a dating site not really a good option as you are likely to be suspicious of everyone that contacts you , maybe a vetted introduction site would be better

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Mike

9 January 2010 12:44

Oh and why is it that dating sites use pictures of really slim/attractive people in ALL the ads , do you really think in the main you are likely to meet people like that ? I think it just raises false expectations to some before they even start.

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Annelie Wouters

9 January 2010 19:49

Hi

I want to change my profile to say I am a non-smoker as I have now stopped smoking. Please can you let me know how I do this.

Thanks

Annelie

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Ian Lilley

10 January 2010 12:59

Agree with many blogs,why do we have to go into communication mode b4 we see that the there are no pics.You would not drive a car with a blindfold on and dating is no different.Come on girls get your cameras out.

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eharmony

11 January 2010 10:40

Hi Annelie,

Thank you for your query. You can update your status to a non-smoker in your ‘Match Settings’. Simply go to ‘My Settings’ from your profile page, and then choose ‘Personal Preferences’. You will see that the first option is the ‘Smoking’ option, where you can state how often you smoke, and how often you would prefer your matches to smoke. You can change how often you smoke to ‘Never’.

I hope this helps.

Best wishes,
eHarmony Advice

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Nicholas

11 January 2010 15:34

Hi
My opinion on photos.

This is a dating site and not a blind date site.
Post a photo and you will get many, many more responses.
This is just human nature.

Good luck to all.
Nicholas

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Deb

12 January 2010 22:55

Firstly Mike and Gareth- wanting a woman purely for breeding purposes seems a little bit archaic even if they do fall within your 20 mile distance and fertile age range- they might not want kids or just not be suitable!! Secondly, I think not putting a photo becuase you are might be recognised is a feeble excuse, I work in public services as a teacher and feel nothing to be ashamed of by being on a site such as this.
Since I am on my soap box…. kids on photos- you are primarily wanting to meet a partner for yourself, not a replacement Mummy/Daddy so why make this a big focus on your pics- it’s a given that you love your kids we wouldn’t expect anything else.

My Profile- loads of photos, ticks all the “boxes” loads of matches but only 5 communicating :( Maybe I should lower my age range!

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judi Comber

13 January 2010 18:15

Personally, seeing pictures of children on the net deeply worries me. There is NO WAY I would post a photo of me with my children – at any age! Thankfully they have “flown the nest” and are adults, but putting a picture of you and your children out even in a “closed” structure like this is WRONG. Pictures are copied, and the next thing you know is you have a stalker after your children! THINK PEOPLE! IT’s a HORRIBLE world we live in, so PROTECT your children, until the time has come for them to meet face to face the one person you think is right for you.

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Mike

14 January 2010 15:01

Sorry Debs bit archaic? if that was so then dating sites wouldn’t give the options and nothing archaic about it some of us would like to meet someone and have a family, both men and women. There is absolutely no point if one party wants kids dating someone that doesn’t so why not be honest and up front, after all that’s what we all want, honest people isn’t it?. The sour grapes seem to come IMHO from those that already have kids , who want the best of both worlds and get upset when they are rejected by men who want a family of their own or by women who have left it toooo late, to ,as you put it breed , some of us still hope to have them, be it with a partner or maybe even adopted.
If you don’t want kids fine , but hit the NO option so I don’t waste my time

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Mike

14 January 2010 15:28

I agree with Judi , as someone who has done that line of work and without being dramatic, plenty who trawl the web capturing images of kids and doing their weirdness and re-posting to their mates, why give them images of your kids to mess about with!!
The only people that should have images of your kids are your friends/family and people you can trust.
I also know of someone who introduced their kids at a very early stage , then dumped the guy only to find out that he was contacting the kids via their facebook site to try and get them to persuade mum to see him again

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Kay

15 January 2010 05:23

Another pointer is, try to be photographed alone. You want the focus on you, not all your friends. That’s another thing, it sounds awful to say, but don’t have your best looking mate in your profile picture with you. It may lead to disappointment later… for you.

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Helen

15 January 2010 13:38

I live in a small community and recently had the experience of my photo and dating profile from another site being copied and circulated round my workplace ‘for a laugh’. I am in a senior position and it deeply undermined me and my confidence. It does happen – and people do trawl the Internet because they are bored.

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David

16 January 2010 15:16

Having read a lot of profiles, I get the impression that women are much more likely to spell out what they want from a man, in no uncertain terms. Men, on the other hand, are much more easy going in their requirements. I have come across the same profiles(on another site)of very attractive women over a period of several months who are unable to find suitable partners, because quite rightly, they know what they require, and obviously, no-one matches these requirements. I must admit, I do need to see a photo, so I find this site a bit off putting. I am not a member, because so far I have not been tempted enough by any profiles

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ju

16 January 2010 15:57

I think it would be quite nice if, in addition to uploading a profile pic or two, you could upload a couple of pics of things that make you ‘tick’. No – I don’t mean readers’ wives pics :-) I mean, what about a visual representation of the things that are too good for words but which mean a lot to you? I have some I wish I could upload, but alas Eharmony only want your mugshot and nothing else. I’d like to see people’s artwork on here if they’re into art, or a photo of a poem transcript…that would be really cool.

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Mike

16 January 2010 15:59

Helen
I appreciate the problems but if you are not prepared to post a picture many , myself included will not bother due to getting on average 10 matches a day, those that have no picture or a minimal profile get closed.
If you are that concerned nay I suggest a discreet introduction agency, not all of them are expensive.
Lastly I really don’t see why you are worried about what you have described , it’s not like you are married and looking for a fling ( I assume you’re not) your colleagues will know you are single and using such sites is the norm for most these days, who knows someone also single may see the profile and contact you…. free publicity is always good

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Mike

16 January 2010 22:30

David… I agree and that’s why we are heading for a society full of lonely spinsters with no children, it’s about compromise, chaps, the ones I know, seem to have more reasonable expectations and are willing to date a girl that may not be the perfect ten, warts and all , a lot of women I have met turn their noses up coz waiting for their ideal man to walk through the door or post his profile.

Ju…mmm I think most of us are trying to get a visual of the person, if we start dating and they want to show me their artwork or etchings fine , I really couldn’t be bothered looking through loads of pictures of vases and it may work against them if they think their watercolour is great but looks like it has been drawn by a blindfolded 4yr old , if they mention they are an artist nothing stopping you asking for some pictures to be sent to an email address when in open communication or if they are a musician could get them to blow their horn down your landline

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Martin

17 January 2010 14:59

Nice to see that so many people readthese pointers and actually do soemthing about their profile etc if it lacks the clarity and style :-)
Well done.

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Sara

17 January 2010 18:53

No amature art work pics please, the fact is pics of other people hols, kids, art work are incredibly boring to the rest of us.

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K

17 January 2010 22:05

Hi – can someone help please, I am having difficulty viewing pics on the new web page format, it just seems to show the first two pics in the slide show and doesnt flick through the rest.

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Catherine

18 January 2010 03:41

Why is it that Caribbean and Africans are one ethnicity? For the purpose of dating it should be separated. We are culturally very different and the separation would make matching much easier

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eharmony

18 January 2010 11:31

Hi K,

Thank you for your feedback about our new profile pages. I’ve forwarded your comments onto our technical team for them to investigate. If it appears the issue is specific to your account, one of our Customer Care team will be in touch to try and solve the issue with you.

Best wishes,
eHarmony Advice

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Donna

18 January 2010 12:35

Hi Mike,
I agree with your comment reagrding photo’s got to admit I’m one of the gals who hasnt posted a picce, but I have also met many people and communicated,using a mobile phone photo of my self being that others are a group or at the other end of a camera, its not till after reading all the comments I will endevour to get a photo. I couldnt like your self find it in the least interesting to look at peoples art work or such its much nicer to find out and see in person your partners likes, I wish you luck on the site :-)

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Liz

18 January 2010 22:45

What an interesting read! I am interested that some people think lack of a photo is lazy! How about, shy? How about, not got one recently? How about, all mine are taken with my friends (which is also such a big problem it seems). Personally, I prefer a photo and to be honest have discounted people because they were really not my type but cant we get round that via communication and photos later? As for the professional bit … I have every reason to professionally be shy about this. Indeed someone from my place of work did contact me once when I first started. But, we are human and embarrassment starts from within, why would you be embarrassed to be dating … dont senior managers have love lives then? As for clients, well like everything else you hold your boundaries and dont discuss it. As for me, I changed the opening questions and then stoped getting responses! There is a question you guys obviously dont like.

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Mike

20 January 2010 22:44

mmm if all yours are taken with friends may I suggest photoshop or similar and some cropping or if scanning into a computer a pair of scissors. Communication is great but lets be honest all of us want to know if the guy/gal we are communicating with has more Chins than the Chinese phonebook , or if the gal has three bellies and a tash :-)

Re the questions yes some are a bit bizarre, but I think it’s the open questions ( stage 3) that usually the deal breaker, for me it’s when I ask about one thing they wished they had handled differently and all the bile about the ex comes pouring out …..next , move on ….

I have decided to maximise my chances and have splashed out on a introduction agency that does social events as well, so now three ways to meet someone, maximise ones chances I say

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Samantha

21 January 2010 21:29

I have to agree that it is annoying when you like a profile, but you then can’t see their photo. I am not shallow, I don’t go for stunningly gorgeous men, but do like to know what someone looks like. Why oh why EH don’t you make it compulsory?

I also agree with Mike as to whether they say they want children or if they only put maybe. If you don’t please just say no. I am 39 and would like a family its not that as Mike so succinctly puts it that I have left it too late, just that I wasn’t in the right relationship! I feel I still have a few years left and wouldn’t say no to someone that said they didn’t want any but I really liked their profile but, at least we would start off on a good footing by telling the TRUTH!!! Which some men don’t seem to know the meaning of!

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Brenda

22 January 2010 19:32

I’ve just tried uploading a second photo and making it my primary one, when it didn’t show up on my profile and only showed the first one, I tried deleting the first photo and re uploading it. Now it says I have no photos uploaded at all, but when I look in my “about me” section they are both there.
E Harmony, you’re not making this very easy!

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Kate

24 January 2010 11:29

How do all these single people get a photo of themselves?! I only have one, which is my passport photo which I scanned but this site won’t accept it. I don’t have any other, I would have to ask a friend to take one which seems dreadfully self absorbed!

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eharmony

25 January 2010 10:35

Hi Brenda,

Thank you for your query. Profile photos are all manually checked by our Customer Care team. If your photos have still not updated within 24 hours please call this number: 0800 028 0308.

Best wishes,
eHarmony Advice

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Louise

25 January 2010 19:04

What to do if the camera is not your friend though! There are very few half decent pictures of me and all in public, this doesn’t demote me in any way it shows I have a social life. Simple way to fix confusion, fill in the tags below each picture – if you really like how you look in a certian picture just make it clear which one is you. Pop up more than one and there’s no confusion! Simple. I think you can learn a lot from a person on what image they choose of themselves as it shows how they percieve themselves and what they find desirable in their own reflection. If you want posers just look on facebook…

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Bigsy

25 January 2010 23:26

hahahaha i must say this is funny, i’m enjoying reading all these comments, my account is expiring next month…. i think i might renew it, more comments gys plz….lol this is funny..

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Mike

26 January 2010 21:16

Samantha

There was quite a good article in page 23 of the Daily Mail today
It was written by a woman who ended up having a child by insemination as waited for Mr Right who never came along. The heading was “single over 30″ Longing for a baby ? A New book says stop waiting for the perfect man and marry the first half decent one who’ll have you” But the line I like was “Mr Second Best is better than Mr Nobody”

Kate

Do what I did, I wrote to crimewatch and asked for a copy of my picture off of their most wanted board

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Mike

26 January 2010 23:23

Ps

Samantha
If you don’t go for stunningly gorgeous men, have got to ask do you live anywhere near Hertfordshire in the UK :-)

Me… Own teeth, house trained , well sprung

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fiona

26 January 2010 23:34

Is internet dating an extension of consumerism? A 2 x dimensional market place where we go shopping looking for our ideal object – or try to present ourselves as an ideal object? Most of us don’t have access to the professional infrastructure that creates the images of identity and desirability that we are all so familiar with – photos, lifestyle situation etc., and even if we were, we could have anxiety about referencing these images, in case they exagerate the deliverability of personal attributes. Think I won’t try this method again…

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Mike

27 January 2010 00:46

Louise

Yes you can learn a lot from a profile , someone who posts a minimal profile and no photograph tells me they are not really bothered or are doing it half heatedly , a bit like job CV’s if the applicant can’t be bothered to spend some time and effort doing it, I can’t be bothered to read it or in the case of EH guess which of the people in the photograph is them

EH is a market place , one has to present oneself in the best light ie a reasonable amount of info and a nice piccy , otherwise you will be left on the shelf and closed
( apologies for three emails)

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Bigsy

27 January 2010 17:38

maybe …. you should upgrade to a built in camera LAPTOP,,,,,and take the photo yourself…. it’s easy as ABC……lol

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Mike

27 January 2010 19:23

Fiona

So basically you are not willing to play the game by the rules but expect guys to choose you over the 10 or so other matches with a picture.
Most who use these sites know the pack drill and all sites point out (in not so many words) that you are wasting your time/money if no picture

Plenty of other options available to you

Good Luck

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Louise

28 January 2010 02:20

Omg Mike do you like live on here? I’m sure at least a quarter of this is yours lol you seem very opinionated, pitty you live so far up North from me or I could of found myself a worthy advokate.
Btw, I believe you have just objectified everyone on EH by calling it a “Market Place”, do often put single girls on your shopping list?
Maybe Bigsey had the right idea – shell out for a laptop with a webcam, can get notebooks for bout £100 odd they’ll work long enough for you to get a picture or two. That should proove sufficient effort!

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Mike

29 January 2010 20:44

Louise

This is just something to do whilst waiting for all those messages (Not)

I thought that was the idea of these forums to post opinions.
It is a market place for both you girls and us guys , not a meet market like some of the singles events I have been to, but a market just the same with each of us trying to sell ourselves , so the packaging and advertising important, you wouldn’t buy a can of beans without a label.

Its like when you go and buy a car you don’t want one with ripped upholstery or like me one with a blowy exhaust and a few dents.

And yes I do have a lady as top of my shopping list , always looking for special offers not past their sell by date , would also be handy to get a “Buy One, Get One Free”

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Mike

29 January 2010 20:45

Ps.

Let me know where you can get a notebook and webcam for £100 , mine was the cheapest around and was £299

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Pat

30 January 2010 17:33

The term African/Caribbean really only describes those people who are African or part African by race, whether they are from Africa or the Caribbean. The term does not really cover any of the other Caribbean races-of which there are many e.g Caribbean/ Indian, Caribbean/Chinese etc. That’s where a photo is helpful.

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Lynda

31 January 2010 00:50

Just completed (well almost!!) my profile today and uploaded a few pics (some of which were declined) have to say this is the third site I’ve tried as most have no pics or need to give permission… What is the problem with displaying a picture? Would you buy a work of art if you couldn’t see it????

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Clinton

31 January 2010 19:10

In 4 months I haven’t had a single response from anyone I’d sent an icebreaker to. I’m pretty sure I’m not that ugly :)

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Tom

1 February 2010 08:45

“Pictures are copied, and the next thing you know is you have a stalker after your children!”

Flickr is full of family photos, there’s not enough stalkers to go round.

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Mike

1 February 2010 11:17

Clinton

I wouldn’t worry mate , this is normal happens to me and two male friends who are using the site, many of the people you are sending the opening questions to are probably not full members so haven’t paid and can’t reply. Quite a few people I message are not on there when I click again ( this person is not a member message) so just time wasters.

I would say out of 10 messages I send I get maybe one response , also taking a look at how many people have viewed you gives you an idea of the likelyhood of getting any responses, I might get two views a day, my profile is pretty average. I think if you are serious in meeting someone you have to join a proper agency, this is just something to dabble with in addition , may work for a few.

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Sallyann

1 February 2010 22:15

David …you obviously haven’t read mine !!!

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Hope

3 February 2010 09:33

The biggest sin is having no photo at all. In the last 25 matches sent to me only 2 had photos !

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Bigsey

3 February 2010 12:30

lol….well at list you can able to post your opinion up…. who knows maybe somebody will like your opinion and send you an icebreaker so you don’t have to wait for matches and icebreakers…haha i love it i’m having more fun reading all these articles here than reading my matches biographies, ’cause quite fankly there’s nothing to read about them, well most of them.

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Rad

3 February 2010 15:10

Hi all,

This forum is hilarious, thanks for making me smile.

Just proves to show that we all are human.;)

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Amy

4 February 2010 11:16

Hi everyone
I have a photo on my profile and i thought it was quite a nice one. I currently have no-one communicating with me and all my matches are old, sleazy, no photo or short! Do i need to change my information because your matching process is clearly not working! I got 100’s of e-mails and winks etc on Match and here – next to nothing! Not impressed!
Amy

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Barbara

4 February 2010 12:09

Ooh I’m glad I found this I was beginning to think I’d done everything wrong! I’ve changed my settings several times, requested photo’s only had one put one up, (I’d say 8 out 10 don’t have one that I’m matched with) call me shallow but agree with the comments made above it’s not a blind dating site.
I think it’s a bit arrogant for people to not put a picture up because of their job, put a blank on the main one then some pics as second or third,then snoopers won’t spot it, besides it’s not the easiest site to go searching for random people on.

I’m overall quite disappointed with the whole experience, I think for the money it’s not doing a great job, and if those are my matches then there’s obviously something glaringly wrong with my personality which strangely is not something people seem to have a problem with in general on a daily basis.

Sorry for whining but I’m a bit cross about it.

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Mike

4 February 2010 19:15

Barbara

As I have said you get what you pay for , with all these sites it is just a random selection by a computer , compared to an agency you are getting a reasonable service for your £40 or whatever as most agencies only give you 20 or so intros and one is paying upwards of £600 and a annual or monthly service fee on top .So for what EH provides it’s well worth it as a secondary avenue to meet someone, I now just see it as a bit of fun and a bit of a lottery , nowt to lose etc

Maybe you are unrealistic with your ages ie if one is 55 and looking for males 35-40 or you live in a remote area and have a radius for a match say of 50 miles you are reducing your chances , a combination of these and unlikely to get many hits add smoker for example and may as well not bother.

I have had to adjust my age settings ( by only a year or so) and my hits increased threefold

Re the photographs I don’t think your suggestion would work as EH requires a acceptable No1 profile picture before it will allow you to post others.( I say acceptable , but still don’t know what is acceptable about a guess the punter group picture or a twosome). And if the majority can post a picture why should I have to trawl their album to see one , no picture = closed

Good luck

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Mike

4 February 2010 19:30

The other thing girls and I hope I am not being rude but honest is that there are about I would say ( from articles I have read) 3:1 ration of women to men, if you are very overweight,stick like 5′0 or 6′02 then again you sadly may not be picked as loads of Mz averages on the site to choose from
I’m a overweight, mid life crises, three chin, wobbly gut ( monks hairstyle) baldy and realise 8/10 women won’t be interested no matter how good my profile, under no illusion and I am realistic , you can’t fight above your weight and expect to win.

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Mike (no - not that Mike, another one)

5 February 2010 17:48

One thing I do find irritating about EH is that you cannot ’search’ as widely as is possible on other sites. That is, the matches are sent to you, based on criteria, but you can’t look yourself. So, if I thought that ‘Louise’ or ‘Samantha’ or ‘Deb’ sounded interesting, I wouldn’t be able to actually go hunt out their profile. I know this is how EH sells itself, but it can be a little frustrating.

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Mike

6 February 2010 01:38

The Other Mike

You are correct and that is the difference btwn EH and DD or Match
you will only get matches if your criteria fits, if you are too narrow with your wants you will not match anyone and no one will match you. The idea is that computer saves wasting time if you are say a 55 yr old male peppering with messages loads of 35 yr old women who’s upper limit is say 45.
This site is loads better than Parsnip where the chances of matching was almost nil
But one has to do two things firstly seeing if you are matching with anyone at all , by seeing how many have viewed you , if no one obviously your criteria too strict and secondly be honest and true to oneself and unless drop dead gorgeous or a hunk compromise, give someone a go that doesn’t tick every single box , their other attributes may compensate for their height or extra few pounds, if you reject every potential match you may find yourself on here a long long time

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Tania

7 February 2010 12:47

Hi

I have recently subscribed and after finishing my profile details tried to add my photo but keep getting error message that my picture should be less than 5MB and a JPG. I have checked and my picture meets those requirements, this has happened on 5 different pictures I tried to upload on to the site. At the end I sent one in to the photo email address on the site. I would like some feed back to why I cannot add any further photos.

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Sallyann

7 February 2010 16:31

Hi everyone….seems there is more communication on here than through the matches sent to one’s profile!!!

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Clinton

7 February 2010 18:14

Haha… maybe my problem might simply be that I am short. At 5′7 I’m definitely the shortest guy on the train every morning. However, while EH does send me on average 2 “matches” a day, my profile only gets viewed twice a week, if that.

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eharmony

8 February 2010 10:16

Hi Tania,

Thank you for your query about eHarmony. We have passed on your question to our dedicated Customer Care team. They should respond to you via email in the next 48 hours.

If you have any more queries, please contact our Customer Care team here: http://help-singles.eharmony.co.uk/app/ask/kw/contact/r_id/166

Best wishes,
eHarmony Advice

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Mike

8 February 2010 14:10

Clinton

Cuban Heels mate

There is also a stretching procedure done in the States involves winding a screw each day, worked for me was 4′10 now 5′11 , only problem is my arms can’t don’t reach my pockets

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Zoe

8 February 2010 15:01

The site will not let me upload a picture. It is under the 5mb size limit and I have also tried to email a copy of it to your email address but still with no luck. Is this because i have not subcribed as yet??? Please help!!

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eharmony

8 February 2010 16:40

Hi there Zoe,

Thank you for your query. If you have only just emailed your photo to us, please be aware it takes our Customer Care department around 48 hours to approve photos, as they are all checked manually. We also have some guidelines for photos, that you should check to ensure your primary photo adheres to:

http://help-singles.eharmony.co.uk/app/answers/detail/a_id/2206/c/99/r_id/166

If you are still having problems uploading a photo, you can contact our Customer Care team on 0800 028 0308#

You also don’t need to be subscribed to upload a photo.

Hope this helps.

Best wishes,
eHarmony Advice

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Clinton

9 February 2010 00:09

Hahaha. Even if anything could be done about it I’m happy with my height. It’s everyone else who are the freaks :)

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Jen

9 February 2010 21:12

Just wondering – what *is* the ratio of women to men? Eharmony?

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Twee

10 February 2010 23:48

I started my application for EH four days ago…I thought it was never going to finish! But I got there and EH sent me some matches. I read about 7 profiles today, I couldn’t view the photo’s as I hadn’t subscribed. After deleberating over the many payment options I was finally able to view the photo’s. I was dreading what my matches looked like…some of you will get what I mean there…but I was surprised, most were someone I would wink at on the train (well in my head anyway…). Two of my first lot of matches have viewed my profile and requested a photo, so I have followed everyones hints….main one is head and shoulders of me complete with my usual grin and selected a body shot second….So, EH hurry up and approve my photos so I can tell everyone how my 3rd day on here goes…or I am sure Mike will have something to say ;)
p.s. to everyone on here, you all seem lovely people so I don’t know why there aren’t more love stories on here! :)

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Mike

11 February 2010 00:45

Jen

Most sites have a 3:1 ratio , from speaking to both male and female mates who have used various sites , it seems like the chaps are more serious about it, ie if they sign up they actually use the site and pay the subscription, rather than just have a dabble and leave

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Clinton

12 February 2010 07:26

Twee,

Yes, they’re matches. Yes, they’re pretty. I’m yet to get a match who isn’t. And there are lots of them – think I’ve had about 240 matches since I joined in September.

However, as Mike just said, most women tend to just dabble and move on so don’t hold your breath for any sort of communication or reply :)

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Barbara

12 February 2010 12:10

Thanks to all who comment – all the Mikes included! There’s a site called Parsnip?!

I shall now follow the advice and see what happens, maybe it’s because I’m in the North near York and not many subscribers here.

Here Goes!

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Mike

12 February 2010 17:42

It’s Parship ( suppose short for Partnership) a right load of pants

As I have said if you just use these on line sites and do nowt else likely to be disappointed….Just looked and up to over 900 closed ladies most had no pictures or didn’t reply.

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MikeyD

12 February 2010 19:38

I don’t get it. As a new member I have a few matches and most don’t have a photo. I have requested photos but get no response.
Rather disappointed so far.
I guess many of these ladies just don’t take it seriously.

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Mike

13 February 2010 00:00

You get No response for one of the following reasons

1) They have viewed you (check to see) and don’t like your profile
2) They haven’t a picture they can send
3) They haven’t logged on for ages
4) They haven’t subscribed but just
had a play

3) or 4) The most likely

Take my advice don’t waste your time requesting , why should you
NO PHOTO = CLOSE

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Mike

13 February 2010 00:06

Please Please EH listen to the posts and give us the option of only getting matches with pictures or when we get matches an icon showing a photograph present, most other sites give a “only matches with a photo” option.

Could you also bounce far away or group shots again a waste of time.

It would also be handy to be able to close from the matches list without viewing, ie if distance too far or no photo, would save time

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Ros

13 February 2010 01:24

I agree with Karl: I would prefer to send my photo to someone once we are aleady getting on well mind-to-mind, and see if there is any physical attraction at that point; afterall, we are here on eHarmony to find love/stability, not a passing fling!

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MikeyD

13 February 2010 10:57

Yeah, quite right Mike. I’m closing those without photos & not requesting any. I’ve put a lot of time into this (and money) and don’t have time to be messed about.
EH should listen to what we say!

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Tom

13 February 2010 16:48

I guess I’m the same as a lot of you, I get a lot of matches but hardly any communication no mate how much I try. I’m only 29 and it’s impossible to meet genuine women in real life so internet dating is the only way for me and they all seem so judgemental online as well as offline sometimes I think there’s no hope!

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db

13 February 2010 18:18

As far as I am concerned a photo is a photo. I agree with some of e/h’s suggestions. But if someone judges me by my photo then all I can say is they must be ‘SHALLOW’. I would like to be matched, but find the database just tickles that is until the subscription is due again…and blow me down they come out of the woodwork!

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db

13 February 2010 18:21

Just realised I commited a cardinal sin with a spelling error in the previous comment 114, tickle shoud read trickle. Can’t say I was tickled pink when I saw that!

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Louisa

13 February 2010 20:47

I work in mental health services. I do not want my photo to be available without my control to any of my patients. Maybe we should not automatically judge those without photos until we know why.

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Kathy

14 February 2010 00:26

Here’s another tip for photos – sunglasses may look cool but we need to see your faces guys – “eyes are the windows of the soul” after all!

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Kathy

14 February 2010 00:50

Mike, I had thought you were being a bit harsh about people with no photo, but this might amuse you – a response from someone I was communicating with & asked them for a photo, and my reply:-

I could post a photo, but unless I subscribe I still cannot view your pictures. I won’t be doing that as you are the only good match they have provided. I would be interested to see an image, if you can get in touch through my web site we could exchange pictures.

Right, ******, let me get this straight – I’m the only good match you’ve been sent but you can’t be bothered to upload a photo? Whereas I’ve taken the trouble to pay out for a month’s membership and upload 3? And you want me to go to your website and give you my email? Pity, you sounded interesting. But I’ve got news for you – you are still looking mate. I am insulted. You are closed.

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Twee

14 February 2010 12:44

Thanks CLinton, I am wondering whether to cancel my subscription…I uploaded two photos of me and felt my paranoia increse as I watched match after match close communication…. Its not a good way to make you feel good….! I don’t want to be one of those girls who gets professionally made up for a photo etc but it seems some of my matches are somewhat shallow..? All the decent men seem to be on this thread!

ps I am 5ft 7 too ;)

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Mike

14 February 2010 12:52

Yep loads of muppets about, make sure you allow him time to read it , before you close him,plenty of players and chancers on the site so I am told.
How did he communicate with you if he hasn’t subscribed I thought you had to pay and display before replying unless it was one of those offers where you can send emails all weekend for free.
As an aside I have just closed two this morning after some communication , one just wanted a father for her kids and a case of the cart before horse and the other was bonkers ….Ho Hum onwards and upwards, Shame we can’t private communicate with people on this forum , most of you sound pretty normal and serious about meting someone.

Me harsh never, the truth hurts!!!

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Mike

14 February 2010 12:59

Twee

Don’t give up hope mate , not all of us that shallow but as I have said the chaps have a lot of choice and sadly the first bite is with the eye, I have been closed by loads of women not despondent I just wait for the next matches.

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Twee

14 February 2010 14:00

Thank you Mike :)

ps I have to ask, are you on commission for EH? ;)

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Lyn

14 February 2010 15:22

Have to say I think eharmony should consider letting people communicate through forums as well as via the matches. This is a good way to interact and chat with people :)

Of late the matches I have had with no pics also come with extremely little completed on the profile too. Hardly aspiring matches which are now automatically closed.

I just now have to get past guys who dont set the distance preferences and then close the match because the physical distance is too great. *sigh*

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Clinton

14 February 2010 21:37

I once had someone who was the same height as me tell me she wouldn’t consider a long-term relationship because I’d be shorter than her when she wears heels :)

One thing I wish EH would do is allow you to filter by the number of kids someone has. I wouldn’t mind dating someone who has one child but more than that would be a bit iffy.

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Mike

15 February 2010 02:03

Twee

I think most of my posts would discourage people from joining EH :-)

Clinton

Why didn’t you suggest when she wore heels so would you !
To be honest re the kids , one kid or two kids , you either want someone else’s or you don’t , I have found ( having been out with someone with three) that two easier than one as they can entertain each other and if one of the siblings is say 16 he/she can babysit whilst you go out for an evening

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Clinton

15 February 2010 07:42

I certainly wouldn’t recommend joining. This little forum is the most communication I’ve had with anyone on here :)

I’m just thinking from the point of view that I’d like to have a kiddie of my own; and if someone already has two or more chances are that even though their profile might say maybe, they wouldn’t want to have another.

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Tom Armstrong

15 February 2010 12:27

Hello I have made a mistake on my age I am 35 yrs old not 45, I have tried to correct this but cant.

Please can you correct this for me.

This will explain while all the matches have been 10 or 15 years older than me

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eharmony

15 February 2010 12:47

Hi Tom,

Thank you for your query about eHarmony. We have passed on your question to our dedicated Customer Care team. They should respond to you via email in the next 48 hours.

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Bridget

15 February 2010 15:33

What is going on? How come I’ve been sent matches that I view, I might respond with an icebreaker, I might even ask for a picture, then I get nothing. They haven’t even viewed me!! Surely I can’t be so bad that they run a mile before they’ve even viewed me!!

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Mike

15 February 2010 16:53

Bridget

I am at a loss to know how this wonderful system works , I would have thought if someone opened your profile up from the match list it would show that they viewed you.
I have been sent a communication but haven’t apparently been viewed!!!
I know one can secret view, not sure how one does this.
As I have said a lot of the matches you get are probably no longer on the site or the person hasn’t logged on for months, even years who knows, the computer just sends them regardless.
Everyone who is genuine seems to be in the same boat , shame we cant seem to get any response from a lot of the other passengers.
I think this is where EH could really improve, by weeding out those who have been dormant for ages and not subscribed and those without photos ( say after a month). I would rather have 5 current matches with pics than 10 ghosts without

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Sarah

15 February 2010 19:23

Hi there, I’ve trawled through the comments but haven’t come across the photo sin that bugs me- why do men think ‘I don’t have a photo so I’ll take three’ and put them all on? Same clothes, setting, stance, etc…or maybe shake it up a little and take one turned sideways on… The goes for several shots of the same day out.Was that the only time you’ve been out?
Take your pics. Decide on one. Post it. One day out- max 2 shots and they have to be different views!
And if it’s obvious that you held the camera to take the photo, it sends the message “I have no friends” or “no friends that I’m telling I’m internet dating.” Neither bodes well for an intimate relationship!

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Sarah

15 February 2010 19:40

P.S. great forum!
Kath, I’ve another one: communicated with a guy up to the open communication when he said if I was interested we’d need to start talking via private email as his offer ran out soon. As I’m not worth the price of fish-and-chips-date to get to know it ended there.

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MikeyD

15 February 2010 19:55

I’m with Clinton. The only people who have communicated with me are you guys!
I don’t even have any matches right now and I’ve been a paying member for just 2 weeks! Oh dear.

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Bridget

15 February 2010 20:16

Mike
Secret viewing a bit sad isn’t it??
I have begun to think that ths site is just a rip off. Perhaps there’s no one out there.Perhaps I’m here all alone, talking to my self, looking out to the wide open skies. OMG I am going mad.

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kim

15 February 2010 21:32

I am one of those who signed up for the “free weekend” and am wondering re if it is worth joining. I actually have had an icebreaker sent but could not reply but cannot complain re matches as were sent lots and they all seem normal!

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Clinton

16 February 2010 07:34

Lyn:

I have set my distance settings to the lowest possible because like many London critters I don’t drive. And yet I still get matched with people outside that specification.

Think EH actually need to be able to give you the option of choosing an even smaller area anyway. 30 miles is still a vast distance.

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Mike

16 February 2010 21:42

Kim
****

Two possibilities , you are well fit or your mum is the director of EH :-)

Lyn
****

I think they changed the settings thing so that it will give you your preferred ie within 30miles but if no matches will chuck in longer distances, I have 50 miles and get a few random matches miles away

Bridget
*******

Calm down dear ;-)

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James218

16 February 2010 22:43

I’ve been on e-harmony for around 1 month and I am communicating with 1 person in eh-mail with a dozen or so at stage 2-3. I travel 500 miles a week in SE England as part of my job so I don’t really care how far I go for a date as long as its not more that 2 hours drive. Carlyle or penzance would be to far!

I appreciate if you don’t drive then that may be more difficult.

The people who contact me know the score as I say on my profile I don’t mind having a long distance relationship with a view to settling down later.

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Twee

16 February 2010 23:08

You peeps bring a smile to my face! This site is a shambles, there is no proper organisation in my opinion. I am also a member of a very good free dating site, it tells you the last time someone logged in, so you can judge if they are an active member. EH, we really don’t pay you to waste our time with sending matches who realistically aren’t ever going to be real matches! I think I’ve been on this site a week and like everyone else, this is the most communication I have participated in! I agree there should be a forum. Its nice to get support as personally I find this site is suashing my hopes…and I am paying for it??? :(
Hi Sarah, I had mail from a guy today saying the exact same thing about his membership running out..! I am glad you said how you feel, I felt the same!
Clinton, I live in London and have no children, how old are you and what are your hobbies?! hee hee ;)

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Mike

17 February 2010 00:00

Twee
I am near London ( work Nth London) if you are 36-42ish, over 5′4 own teeth average build , sane and want to do the family thing may be interested. Hobbies are travel , socialising, theatre,stalking, sailing and rugby.
Well may as well try :-)
Who needs the matches probably sort everyone out in here ;-)

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Mike (the other one again)

17 February 2010 11:25

I agree that it would be nice to know when someone was last logged on … you might be ‘talking’ to someone who has been inactive for months.

Personally, I am finding a few matches on EH, but quite often I send out communication and receive no response. Getting a ‘close match’ is better than no response. I’ve even started going through my ‘new matches’ and either closing or communicating with each of them. I’d let them build up to over 150(!) and realised it was silly trying to find new matches in amongst all those.

More irritating is getting to stage 2 or 3 and then getting no reply. EH should prompt you regularly to say “you have outstanding messages to reply to” … it’s not nice to leave people hanging (was that a semi-rant?)

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MikeyD

17 February 2010 17:26

Mike – you have 150 matches? What’s your secret Bro? (that you can publish anyway)
I have none and closed the first few because they didn’t have pics!
I dunno what I’m paying for.

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Twee

17 February 2010 20:04

Hey Mike (The original one – haha this is getting confusing)
I think we cold do a better job on here for free! I am 31, would love kids and my hobbies are surfing, dancing, swimming, writing songs, walking my dog, music, reading, reiki, computer games and laughing lots….! I am slim, 5ft 7, blue eyes and have dark brown hair (currently). However, I can’t put my name next to the word sane. I am a bit nuts….;)

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Bridget

17 February 2010 21:18

This forum really brightens up my day. I look forward to reading what’s going on more than waiting for my next match. Anybody from West london about 50ish?

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Mike

17 February 2010 21:48

MikeyD
I don’t think much of a secret just don’t open the matches I get on average 7 a day sometimes 10 , you just leave them for two weeks ( ie when you go on holiday or on remand) and on return Roberts your dads brother :-)

Twee
You are probably a bit young for me I’m burning 47 candles in two weeks.

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Mike

17 February 2010 21:54

Mike (T.O.O)

Lets be honest if you are serious about using this site why would you need a prompt saying “you have messages” ,I suspect you, like the rest of us log on each evening in the hope of a reply or some new matches.
It would be quite a simple fix , EH removes inactive profiles where the subscription has expired and like most other sites lets us PAYING SERIOUS customers see when someone last logged on.

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Clinton

17 February 2010 23:27

Haha @ Mike. The one guy in my fencing club is about early to mid 40’s and he only dates girls between the ages of 20 and 24. I think it’s a little creepy to be honest.

Twee: I’m 32 but I can’t dance, although I’m keen to try one of those salsa classes that seem so popular. And since I do jump around stabbing at people with bits of metal I think I might be ok at it. I can’t swim either. Nature saw humans making bricks and said said “I’ll have that”. I can’t even float lol. And you like computer games? Awesome. Glad to see someone who enjoys reading. I’m amazed at how many of my “matches” actually say they don’t read.

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Mike

18 February 2010 00:16

Nothing creepy , if a guy is as the ladeeze say ” well fit” then nothing stopping him going for a model with low mileage. That’s where some of my girlee mates have come a cropper , 39-41 and want kids and have found all the “fit” guys they are interested in of a similar age who want same are going for gals early to mid 30’s or younger who still have their eggies.

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Clinton

18 February 2010 07:35

Nope. He says it’s the motorbike and the guitar. And maybe “date” was the wrong word used. It’s literally just a case of going out, finding a girl, taking her home, “dating” for a few days (a few weeks if she’s lucky) and then telling her to hit the road. It’s all about numbers.

Have just realised that I come to check this little forum before I even bother with my new matches.

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Mike

18 February 2010 17:44

Mmmmm

I suspect I wouldn’t get very far with my folding bike and organ :-)

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C

18 February 2010 17:57

Hi Everyone,

I have just joined today and I’ve enjoyed reading the comments posted. You all seem like nice people and I look forward to using the site :)

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Twee

18 February 2010 18:59

Hey friends!
Welcome C – you will soon find yourself coming here and giving up on your matches!
Clinton, I too have started coming here before reviewing my matches!
I looked to see if there were other black market forums going on in other comment threads and found one yesterday – everyone on it was moaning about poor grammer! I wanted to tell them to come spend time with us, we are the nicest eharmony users out there I feel! How’s everyones day been today? :)

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C

18 February 2010 19:34

:) Thanks Twee

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Clinton

18 February 2010 20:58

Life’s too short to worry about grammar and I have bigger priorities than moaning about spelling.

That said I do go microscopically mental every time I hear someone use the word innit.

Mike: Swap the bike for something bigger and the organ for something smaller. Then you’ll have a winner haha

Twee: Same as everyone else’s. Just another day where we try and do the impossible for the ungrateful. It was fun though :)

C: Welcome. Just don’t eat the yellow snow :)

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Sarah

18 February 2010 21:47

Clinton: there’s grammar and there’s grammar. An inability to string two sentences together or make any sense between them is really frustrating to read.
When I widened my ‘intelligence settings’ I didn’t know what I was letting myself in for!

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Margo

18 February 2010 21:54

From my side I can add the following: guys, please , please, please do not post the pictures of yourself somewhere in the pub, holding a MegaPint of beer… It’s just so not sexy! Also you+another woman in the profile picture is just a no-go! Always makes me think: “is that his girlfriend?”

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Clinton

18 February 2010 22:15

Was it that bad? That’s probably the one setting I haven’t considered fiddling with, although on the whole I expect women to be more intelligent than guys. Every doctor I’ve ever had wherever I’ve moved to was female. And pretty.

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Sarah

18 February 2010 22:33

No, not you, just half my matches! And if they’ve made a mess of their profile, I’ve found it just gets worse when I’m communicating. Which puts me in a difficult position. How do I close a match because of poor grammar when I entered into it in the first place?

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Twee

18 February 2010 23:01

Hi Sarah I think it depends on how important it is to you that your future partner is good with grammar…You have to be honest with yourself, if its going to drive you bonkers then maybe you could gently explain how you feel. Maybe he isn’t that hot on paper but maybe he is alight somewhere else ;) Or if it’s the case that he just isn’t on your level intellectually, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to close the match and look for the one that is. :) :)

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Sarah

18 February 2010 23:33

As long as we we’re together (and not sending each other love letters!) it would be fine. But I’m finding that when you hit the open communication stage, some of my matches act like they’ve scored and don’t need to make any more effort. Even if their grammar is pants, they could use punctuation…

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Twee

18 February 2010 23:55

I have honestly found 1 genuine person who has contacted me out of 68 possible matches. I have therefore come to the conclusion that there are very few people on here actually taking it seriously…and I think they are all on this thread! I don’t actually think this site helps the genuine people much. It seems people really do treat it all like a) a game b) a mail order relationship catalogue or c) a fleeting whim

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Clinton

19 February 2010 00:58

Maybe Eharmony’s plan is to give you a lot of duds and then one paying customer that also wants to chat.

Clever.

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Henneke

19 February 2010 09:18

It’s interesting that the only advice about things that turn people off is about photos! How shallow are we?? I personally find very short answers horrible as they thell you nothing about the person – and also badly written/spelled profiles. Especially if the man says he is a professional! I love the ones where the man has obviously taken time to think through what he wants to communicate :-)

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Sarah

19 February 2010 10:54

Twee- I agree. And the genuine ones close the match with ‘I am pursuing another relationship’ because someone else got there first. I am going to develop a hawk-like persona, searching hunch shouldered over my matches, ready to pounce on the poor, unsuspecting soul who enters the site with naive honesty, skewer him on my talons… they don’t mention ‘You’re mine now! Ha Ha! So you thought you could escape, Mr Bond?’ as a turn-off so it should be okay.
Don’t get depressed. At least you found one. I think mines gone on holiday.

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Mike (the other one again)

19 February 2010 17:36

Sarah
That should be “mine’s gone on holiday” of course ;-) I do have the ‘grammar’ bug and it’s in one of my questions I think. I know sometimes people just rush to type things and it’s a simple keying problem, but I think it would really grate on me in a relationship.
But that’s just me of course.
And my 150 matches was just a lack of tidying on my part. I am back with a tidy Matches tab now(!)

We’ve had snow again here.

I’ve never known it when there has been so many spells of snow in one year. I’m gonna trade in my semi for an igloo.

Does anyone else suffer the phenomena of having lots of views and communication for a week or two, then everyone falls silent? I wonder if I have a bunny-boiler going around scaring people off me in secret! It’s not paranoia if they really are out to get you.

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Sarah

19 February 2010 18:35

I’m sorry, I’m so sorry! I spotted it as soon as I’d posted it! Hoisted by my own petard!
Curses!

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Mike

19 February 2010 20:17

Re The grammar , I have found that often those that can’t string two sentences together are not poorly educated or thick but foreign …..in my case from Eastern Europe looking for a visa or Ting Tong from the Far East……

Sarah . I don’t think you can read too much into what they have clicked to close you , they may just be big headed and don’t like your profile and pretend they have found something better, I have missed clicked on several occasions.

I do wish we had some more options ie
1)Your picture was naff
2)Haven’t a clue what you are banging on about
3)God you are scary :-)
4)Closing you but your mate is well fit is she a member?

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Mike

19 February 2010 20:21

Other Mike

Yes I have the same problem , I get to stage 3 or 4 or even open communication and then get closed …The reason OTHER ??
But now I look at it as their loss

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Twee

19 February 2010 20:49

Hey Mike :) Those are awful options lol
But you are right on one thing, it IS their loss, who else could start a happy little black market forum where other like minded folks can share their experiences. Here’s to the weekend peeps! :)
ps I took loads of time over my profile and now I just feel lke a fooooool! But if I really tried, there must be others out there that did too, right???

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Clinton

19 February 2010 21:03

I find that nobody views my profile. And I don’t get communications. Total of 5 people communicated with since September. I get maybe 8 views in two weeks. I’m guessing that I’m probably just getting matched with people who signed up and then decided not to bother with this.

Very empty profiles, no picture, etc etc.

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Sarah

19 February 2010 21:11

Mike (TFONTOO): I agree with the english as she is spoke by foreign nationals, and the visa-hunting people out there (all of mine are N. or W African, for some reason,)but you can pick them out by the sentence construction. The howling grammatical soups I get are English. I think it depends on how much people read. If you’re not a fast reader and have to work out each word anyway, grammar is pointless.
I’d like to have the option to write my own reason for closing. Especially when you’ve been at open communication stage and you’ve been dropped. Writing a final message then would be fun.

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Mike

19 February 2010 21:30

Maybee eH slould ave a grammer & smell chucker built innit :-)

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Clinton

19 February 2010 23:19

I tell people right from the start that I’m foreign but that I already have a visa to be here and stay. Still scares them though. Maybe :)

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Twee

20 February 2010 00:16

lol crack up! :)

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Twee

20 February 2010 00:22

ps what is grammatical soup – is it like alphabet spaghetti?

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Sarah

20 February 2010 02:05

Yup. But harder to digest.

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Clinton

20 February 2010 07:46

And what’s a smell chucker?

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Mike

20 February 2010 16:13

It chucks yer smelling yer irriot :-)

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Twee

20 February 2010 17:13

Is that like when you ‘cup a fart’ and chuck it in someone’s face?
ps please don’t try this at home folks

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Mike

20 February 2010 22:53

Twee

No wonder you are single , must be a barrel of laughs of an evening in your gaff :-)

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MikeyD

20 February 2010 23:48

Guys – had a a bad day but this makes up for it. I may be a little sad but, I’m pissing myself laughing here! You lot are he best!!
Still got no matches though (so can’t even torch my own house)

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Sarah

21 February 2010 00:40

I’ve just discovered that if you rest your cursor on the name you can see a summary and photo of matches that have viewed your profile. Is this new? Or is it one more of those times when I’m the only one who didn’t know? It doesn’t work anywhere else.
Twee: Grammatical soup is just like alphabet spaghetti, but a lot less digestible.
And on a technical note, once you have cupped your fart, how do you get the leaky bits back? It would be great to know (on behalf of a friend, obviously).

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Clinton

21 February 2010 10:24

MikeyD: It’s a bit odd that you’re not getting matches – unless you specified some odd criteria and set it as extremely important. I used to get about 7 matches a day; tweaked one setting to non-negotiable and it trickled down to 2.

Sarah: I think they brought in that feature with the “new” eHarmony last month.

Leaky bits? That sounds worrying :)

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Sarah

21 February 2010 11:03

Ok guys, I’m wanting some information here.
From the above comments I gather that it isn’t only men who write “That’s for you to find out/Not yet/then it wouldn’t only be my friends that know” in the friendly information box. So do women also take several pictures of themselves sat on the sofa and post them ALL?
This morning’s match has posted 7. This is me, on the sofa.
This is another one of me, identical to the first.
This is me on the sofa, not smiling (note that I am smiling in both 1&2).
This is me on the sofa with my arm across the back of the sofa. I have my legs crossed in a relaxed manner.
This is me on the sofa from further away. You cannot see if I am smiling, but I am.
This is me standing in front of the sofa. It is still quite far away but you can see I am smiling.
This is me standing in front of the sofa from further away and you can’t see that I am smiling, but I am (note photo 5).

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Bridget

21 February 2010 11:33

I’ve been away for a bit and have just caught up on your lastest comments. You’re all bonkers. Is this what happens to you when you been on EH for a while?
EH if you watching why don’t you send our profiles to each other, then at least we will know who we are speaking to.
Is there any other forum out there that seems to have a sideline going on?

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Sarah

21 February 2010 12:38

Bridget: Yes, all the articles at the bottom of the home page have discussion lines. This line is by far the most intelligent, line two (why are my matches so varied) is for manic depressives. Line three is for honest introspection and touchy feelyness. I think I it killed off.

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Clinton

21 February 2010 17:07

But being bonkers is preferable to being boring old normal :)

Probably why I’m using this site.

Too eccentric to actually ask anyone out in the normal way. And shy :)

I’m slightly puzzled as to why I get matched with so many nursery teachers.

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Sarah

21 February 2010 18:20

Ok guys, I’m wanting information here. From the above comments I gather that it isn’t just men that write “That’s for you to find out/not yet/then it wouldn’t just be my friends who knew” in the friendly information box.
So when women find themselves short of a photo, do they also take several of themselves on/by a sofa and post them ALL?
One of this morning’s matches has 7 photos:
This is me on the sofa.
This is me on the sofa. I have not moved.
This is me on the sofa, but this time I am not smiling. Note that I am smiling in photos 1&2.
This is me on the sofa. I have turned my head to the side and am resting my arm along the back in a relaxed manner.
This is me on the sofa from far away. You cannot see if I am smiling, but I am.
This is me standing in front of the sofa. I am still quite far away but you can see that I am smiling.
This is me standing to one side of the sofa. I am now too far away to show you that I am not smiling in a very sexy way (ref photos 3&5).

Does anyone else get this?

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Clinton

21 February 2010 18:35

Most of my matches have 1 photo or none. The ones who do put more tend to put on pics of themselves on their exotic holiday somewhere in a South American jungle or good old Egypt.

Photos (and looks in general) don’t bother me too much – I even send communications to people who don’t have a photo if their profile seems interesting. Needless to say I still get no response. :)

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Clinton

21 February 2010 18:48

My latest match has decided to post a webcam pic of herself wearing a towel. I’d feel guilty if I messaged this one.

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Mike

21 February 2010 19:17

Sarah

PMSL …..:-)

I usually either get one photo or possibly up to three, at least one is a holiday snap, quite a few are of the person standing quite away away from the camera.There is also the gals holding a child ( I assume they are the owner & it hasn’t been snatched by them same with assorted pets)

All the photos being head shots is always a bit of a red signal as either they have no body or too much of one

I knew if you hovered over the persons name in ” who has viewed me” you see a picture been doing that for months

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Clinton

21 February 2010 20:21

Well… nobody views me. 3 views by known matches and 2 anonymous views in two weeks. Brilliant.

Hey Twee… do you like Kung Fu? :)

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Mike (the other one again)

21 February 2010 23:26

More snow here this weekend!

Sarah – you are forgiven (just this once mind).

I find eH is less prone to the hordes(!) of foreign spamming that some sites are. In terms of photographs, I find that most women have either 2 identical shots, or more than 5. Occasionally ‘no photo’ which I almost understand, but at some point you have to be brave …

I hate to write about myself, so have not looked at my profile since first created. I hope it’s okay(!)

I avoid those with almost bare profiles – why is there no content? Odd.

I agree that having a ‘other’; and here’s my reason would be good. I tend to err towards “too far away” or “based upon your profile…” But giving a positive ‘no’ seems fairest.

I’ve have some that close me after I send them questions and they never viewed my profile. Those must be damning questions!

peep.

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Sarah

22 February 2010 22:47

That’s better than you send your questions and your match views your profile and you wait… as the tumbleweed rolls towards the far horizon… So you consider closing but you liked the profile so you send a nudge and he views you again and you wait…
Then torch the bloody tumbleweed.
I love the snow. I know I’m supposed to be all grown up and think of it as a nuisance, but I can’t.
So ladies- am I the only girl who gets matches posting seven near-identical photos? I’ve had two other matches with 5.

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Clinton

23 February 2010 00:32

I relaxed my age spec by a tiny bit and EH starts tossing up 25 year olds. Grrrr.

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Shirley

23 February 2010 13:17

I’m taking advantage of a free month’s subscription to the site to assess whether it may unearth my as yet elusive soul mate. So far I receive on average one match every three days and I have communicated with all who can spell and punctuate. My profile has been viewed by just one person and I have received no communications that weren’t initiated by me. So far I have been disappointed.
Naively I was impressed by the premise upon which EH appeared to be based – there was a scientific logic and ergo it would unearth men with whom I was likely to have an instant rapport.
I have been very – for me – relaxed with my criteria and I have made cheery contact with chaps who on the surface don’t appear to be my “cup of tea” because I am trying to be open to all possibilities. I was thanking my stars that I hadn’t paid £40 plus given the woeful lack of any responses.
However clicking on this forum has been such a delight. There are real people out there with wit, charm and style…none of you therefore are non-smoking, within a 20 year span of 50 and within 60 miles of Buckingham…more or less my only criteria.
Back to the point of this particular forum – the free month even allows the uploading of photos and I have three which appear to meet the suggested golden rules, but there’s little point if no one views my profile pages.
I was wondering about trying speed dating – has anyone had an interesting experience with that?
By the way Mikes,Clinton, Twee et al I feel I know you all – we should organise an away day!

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Mike (the other one again)

23 February 2010 13:35

Clinton – what exactly is the problem with eH offering you 25 yr olds? I’d like an answer involving pictures please ;-)

Sarah – I’ve no idea how to ‘nudge’ someone. Although I have been nudged.

I used to think it was better to ignore matches I didn’t like; but now am more positive in rejecting. It is better than the tumbleweed … both ways round.

Our snow has gone, but we have a biting wind. Brrrrrrrrr ……..

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Sarah

23 February 2010 19:19

Mike (TOOA): I can’t claim any special insider knowledge here. After a week a box appears under the name of someone you’re communicating with that says ‘nudge’.
It’s snowing here again.

eH is repeating my mails
eH is repeating my mails

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Clinton

23 February 2010 21:00

No need for pics. Most girls in their 20’s don’t look beyond the next party. Sorry if I’m generalising but there it is.

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Twee

23 February 2010 21:13

Hey everyone! I couldn’t get on here for the last few days…thought eH were updating the site but you lot have managed to still chat to each other!
Clinton – I do like kung fu…I am a fan of Bruce Lee and his use of chi. And not that it compares in any way but I did do a bit of judo when I was younger. What is it about kung fu that you like?
It’s freezing again this eve, thank goodness for hot water bottles :)

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Clinton

23 February 2010 21:37

She likes computer games and kung fu. If Twee likes Japanese anime then she might just be a keeper :)

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Twee

23 February 2010 21:45

lol does pokemon count? :)

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Clinton

23 February 2010 22:00

Not really :)

But I suppose it can be a start :p

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Twee

23 February 2010 22:10

lol :)
I would view your profile Clinton, if only they would send it to me!

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Clinton

23 February 2010 22:25

Could always argue that since they haven’t we might be a horrible match :)

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Twee

23 February 2010 22:41

aaah, you said “we” hee hee :) Seriously though, I do wonder what the matching system picks up on because if it was doing a good job, then we would be busy going on dates with likeminded folks.

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Helen

23 February 2010 22:43

Hi there everyone. Just reading these comments makes me smile and I feel less alone in the world of singledom. eHarmony please please please develop a chat forum – this is great and I would deffinately subscribe to that. One other thing guys – I once subscribed to a Travel Companions site and a guy from LA actually subscribed in order to be able to email me. How refreshing and we are still in touch to this day.

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Nicky

23 February 2010 22:57

I agree with Karl and others, i to feel people’s photo’s are important for people to judge by the cover, however some people do want to stay anon, for various reasons, i am not saying love is blind but people come on here to find a compatible match for them and then the photo is there for the instant, yeah i see myself with them, but if you do post a picture make it good, not passport style no smiles, but no hats, posing, pro pictures its just a farce, again thats not what people will get. Clinton a little stereotyping there, most girls maybe do, but you should never judge a person by general “views” or past experience.

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Clinton

23 February 2010 23:28

Was there something wrong with the way I said we? I’m pretty sure I spelled it correctly :)

When Sarah mentioned it last week, I did wonder how this site judges intelligence. Does it check your grammar maybe? Because I don’t think a person’s level of education would indicate that.

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Joanna

24 February 2010 10:25

No-one has even viewed me in the last two weeks. Haven’t loaded a photo as I honestly don’t have one but will try and get my daughter to take one and upload it today as I’m a bit of a technophobe. I really do want to meet someone suitable but no-one ever seems to reply. What am I doing wrong? I’m 55, solvent and looking to meet someone reasonably normal. Actually reading the comments from here I might be in the wrong place! Actually reading all the above did brighten my day. Perhaps I’m not the only one out there!

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Sarah

24 February 2010 19:37

Clinton- I think they do base it on education. Short of giving us all mensa tests I don’t see that they have a sensible way of determining intelligence. But they put cookies in to monitor your responses so hopefully at some point they’ll notice I dump the ones with awful grammar.
I do agree that education level doesn’t signify intelligence, just academic aptitude- that’s why I reduced my parameters.
Shirley- what about me? I thought I’d found a place where I belonged too!
Does anyone know how long eH UK has been going? Is the sea them fishes is in widening or shrinking?

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Clinton

24 February 2010 19:44

Sorry Nicky; I suffer from I-sez-em-as-I-sees-em syndrome :)

You agreed that most girls in that age-group conform to what I think so why should I ignore my experience and take a risk with any of them? That would be like insurance companies lining up to insure 17 year old drivers! Just because one of them might actually be responsible isn’t going to make any insurance company change its tune.

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Twee

24 February 2010 19:52

Hey peeps :)
Just want to say welcome to the new eH sufferers and happy midweek, roll on the weekend… :)
ps is it just me or does anyone else feel like they need a hug today?

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Twee

24 February 2010 21:05

lol I take it its just me then! :)

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Rele

24 February 2010 21:32

I completely agree with Alex further up who commented on men not posting their photos. It gives me an impression of either cowardice or arrogance. It takes a lot to be honest and set up a profile and to not put a photo is s half hearted. Either that or it suggests that the reader should just take your word for how great you are instead of being vulnerable enough to show yourself and let them decide. If there is no photo, it is an immediate turn off for me!

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Mike

25 February 2010 00:54

Twee & Clinton stop flirting on here exchange emails and bleeding have a chat over a cup of tea…:-)

Shirley ….Yes I have done the three minute ingestion shuffle , all one gets is a sore throat , due to the parrot impersonation, it’s also difficult to sell oneself if a munter like me in 3 mins, I’m an aquired taste
I’m within 50 miles of Bucks but my age range is of baby making age ……….

I actually met someone tonight, nice lady but didn’t have very much in common re work ethos or holidays, but a pleasant evening all the same

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Mike

25 February 2010 01:01

Joanne
You answered your own question …NO PHOTO

Sarah
I think eH been going in the States for a few years but only heard the ads last year or maybe end of 2008 so not long in the UK , the fish pool is large but quite a few salmon have swum upstream and have left their “dead” profiles behind which keep getting caught in our net during a trawl …( had to think about that one!!)

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Sarah

25 February 2010 02:02

Mike- class.

Twee and Clinton- why don’t you get a disposable mobile, give the number on here, work out who you are and if you’re really who you’re saying you are you can ditch the phone before anyone else says they’re you?

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Clinton

25 February 2010 08:28

Sarah: It’s just that I’ve always felt that the value attached to a university degree is a bit disproportionate for what it is. 3 years of generally cocking about interspersed with short periods of cramming for exams. At the end of which you’re saddled with a huge debt to pay off.

And I doubt that the moderators would allow us to undermine their system in such a manner :)

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Clinton

25 February 2010 15:26

I’m sick at home Twee, so I’ll take that offer of a hug :)

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Twee

25 February 2010 20:21

Lol! Ok, firstly, a hug to Clinton, get well soon :)
Mike & Sarah – I am somewhat (and goodness I don’t like that word after the three day long question session at the beginning of signing up) wary of giving out contact details on here but don’t think I haven’t thought about it ;)
I am pleased to hear about Mike’s date too, gives me hope, Joanna, gives me hope, Sarah, gives me hope Shirley etc…..sorry I’m a bit tired.

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Clinton

25 February 2010 21:43

Thanks Twee. I’m sure I’ll survive. Just a slight seasonal breathing malfunction. And I can’t blame you. I wish my bank didn’t have my details :)

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Mike (the other one again)

25 February 2010 22:00

Rain rain rain … *sigh*

I agree that ‘education’ and ‘intelligence’ are different measurements; and now my views and contacts seem to be drying up :-(

I have sent communications (both guided and emails) that have not be replied to, yet I see no ‘nudge’ on any page (either on my ‘communicating’ page or on their profile page.

In terms of viewing profiles, I wonder if it would be possible if you knew their ‘id’ or does eH cleverly filter out that sort of thing. I mean, when I open a ‘match’ it’s the same page with a different (and consistent) value for ’set’ in the query. I wonder if you knew someone’s ’set’ value you could view the profile even if not a ‘match’.

Not sure how you find out what your number is, or whether they are the same for everyone. Is this too much techno-babble?

I’d also expect any email or web addresses posted here to get filtered. eH dont want us going off and forming a break-away league. Like on ning for example. Then communicate freely with whomever you like, anonymously.

Oh Shirley – I’m free next Thursday. How about Brighton or will it be too wet?

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Mike

25 February 2010 23:13

You will only get a nudge if your match hasn’t replied , not sure how long the gap is may be a week , when you next view her you will see a nudge box.

Re the email , one way to find out

mines Mbs780@hotmail.com

The awaits checking thing seems to be no longer in operation

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Twee

25 February 2010 23:17

Raaaaah Mike (T.O.O.A.)! I think eH could add a forum for members to join additionally once they have subscribed. We could have an adapted ‘forum profile’, which we could manipulate to protect our personal information as necessary. I think it can only increase our chance of meeting that special someone and a lot of likeminded people are quite clearly grateful for this little forum, myself included. It is nice (and very comforting) to see how other (genuine) users are getting on.
I don’t think this would be as rewarding if we were being sent more genuine profiles or at least actual current subscribing ones. I am guessing that in the US, this site is like Match.com with users getting plenty of ‘matches’ to keep them busy with their quest.
I still maintain that it would be great to show on our profile whether we are current subscribers or not and when our last log in date was. All vital tools for internet dating as far as I am concerned. And as I still feel that this site doesn’t have enough serious users at present, and as we are paying for it, we should have better options than at present. Phew, not sure where that all came from! :)
p.s. Shirley – where did you get a free month membership?
p.p.s. eH, as we cheer so many of your clients up, can we have a free month membership too? :)

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Twee

25 February 2010 23:39

Wait a minute, I’ve just noticed something about a few of the names of the people posting comments…Some have hyperlinks….

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Clinton

25 February 2010 23:44

Don’t worry Twee… I don’t plan on stalking you or anything :p

I remember a time when dating sites sort of “guaranteed” their services with a nothing-in-6-months-get-6-months-free thing.

Looks like they don’t filter email addresses out. Slightly surprising. Maybe I could go set up a nice disposable webmail address.

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Mike

25 February 2010 23:46

Twee

Not sure about the free month thing but know they do a free weekend thing have heard it advertised.
From mine and others experience I think the actual numbers of people who have logged on in the last month are likely to be low,dependant on area. Like most of these sites ,to many it’s a bit of a laugh , many have no intention of meeting up, just want to flirt in cyberspace. Many seeking Mr/Ms perfect so no one going to tick every one of their boxes box.

You just have to be chilled about it, if you are inpatient , can’t take rejection or being ignored, (or anal about grammar) it’s probably not the site for you.

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Clinton

25 February 2010 23:50

They don’t seem to work though…

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Mike

25 February 2010 23:55

The only hyperlinks I can see are the ones eH put in their replies….

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Clinton

26 February 2010 00:01

Some people’s names (few and far between) are hyperlinked. But the links are all dead.

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Twee

26 February 2010 00:02

No, links don’t work but the idea is there…

Clinton, good idea…. ;)

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Clinton

26 February 2010 00:56

chocolate.pringles.77@googlemail.com

I really do like those Cadbury Snaps.And all the sensible addresses were already taken ;)

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Mike (the other one again)

26 February 2010 02:23

I guess the hyperlink comes from if you put a website in the ‘website’ box (obviously). I’ll put google in and see if that works.

The ‘problem’ with email is that you need to know someone before you do it. That’s why a public forum sounds like a good idea.

As Twee mentioned, a public forum with (private) links to your profile would be a good idea, and cheap to do. I’m setting up a few websites now, and there are many free bits of forum software available. Of course, it could be open to abuse, but if only members could get in, you have a little bit more confidence. Usual rules about internet-folk would apply though (i.e. it’s easy to lie).

Of course, the cynic in me might say that any dating site only loses clients if they find a match …

Women’s ice hockey …

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Clinton

26 February 2010 16:09

Seems logical. On a previous site I tried I’d get plenty of messages and then as soon as I’ve paid they’ll go back into the woodwork. And then wonder of wonders they’ll reappear when payment is due again.

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Twee

26 February 2010 20:25

Hey everyone, here’s to the weekend! :)
Hey Mike TOOA – it works! I clicked on your name and it took me straight to google….and good point re: unmatched clients = still paying clients!
Hey Clinton – I have replied to your email…:)…well, I hope it is you and not some random nutter…haha.

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Clinton

26 February 2010 22:08

Yes it is me. But I am obviously a bit of a nutter. I tried being sane and it was rather dull ;)

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Mike

27 February 2010 10:26

Good luck Twee and Clinton let us know if we need to buy a hat ……….For the rest of us back to the “sound of silence” and tumbleweed :-)

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Shirley

27 February 2010 15:10

Brighton next Thursday? Bit of a trek but the weather is certainly no barrier. People living in Manchester have to contend with rain most of the time so why shouldn’t we southern softies. (Msg 225)
Twee: The EH people wooed me with the free month. If I communicated with three people over a weekend I could have the free month. I did my part and they have made good on the offer. I presume they had a need for more women in a certain demographic category. Anyway apart from this chat it doesn’t seem to be leading anywhere. Although a “Nigel” has taken a peak at me today, which has an exciting frisson. Will he get on with responding to my communique in time before my freebie runs out?
I’ve been reading the various EH articles on the site – most have some very good comments tagged on the end.
What time Thurs?

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Sarah

27 February 2010 19:53

Ah, Brighton would be great Shirley (can stay at my sister’s), just not in the next couple of weeks…
I have swept out the tumbleweed, dust balls and all dreary, blowy things (apart from the dream of dandelion fluff on summer breezes) as I am really talking with two real matches and who cares if one of them is in Durham.

Twee- I’ll raise a glass with you; here’s to the weekend.

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Mike (the other one again)

27 February 2010 20:01

Okay, so Shirley and Sarah are coming on the Brighton trip. Maybe you need to have a name starting with ‘S’ to qualify?! I wonder what ‘Twee’ really stands for?

How about an early start on Thursday? Then we can have a play on the beach with bucket and spade, throw a frisbee around, kick a ball, splash in the water. And still have time for arcade-fun(!) a quick pub lunch, walk in the afternoon, then fish & chips on a bench later whilst watching the waves roll in.

Possibly leave before the evening becomes too crazy though. I hope the wind has dropped by then! Don’t want the “Kiss Me Quick” hat to blow away.

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Clinton

27 February 2010 20:44

Did everyone else get next Thursday off or is there a secret public holiday that I didn’t get the memo for?

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Mike

28 February 2010 02:05

Doesn’t matter if I did not been invited on the trip :-( ((((

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Clinton

28 February 2010 11:05

Shirley suggested an away day for everyone in 198 and then the other Mike suggested Brighton next Thursday in 225.

So by my logic you are invited.

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Bridget

28 February 2010 11:24

Hi Everyone. Got an idea to help Clinton and Twee. Clinton write on here your town, age etc. Twee change your settings to match and hopefully EH will match you.Bingo. Hope it works.
Hope next Thursday goes ok.
Mike, I agree, thought that was just Mike (TOOA) and Shirley, didn’t realise it was a general invite. How come you lot don’t work then. Hope you are all enjoying the weekend.

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Clinton

28 February 2010 11:53

Well, we’re swapping emails now so no need to doctor our profiles for EH to do a match. I doubt it could match a horse and cart to be honest…

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Twee

28 February 2010 12:30

Hey everyone! Lol I wish I could take Thursday off! A BBQ and chairs etc have permanent residence in the boot of my car for spontenous trips! Thanks to everyone for their ideas on how to get Clinton and I in touch – I am glad we have now swapped emails…I don’t know why we were sent each others profiles…. ;) Hee hee (TOOA), you can look ‘Twee’ up in the dictionary to find out what it stands for ;) hee hee

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Twee

28 February 2010 12:32

Sorry, last post should say ‘why we wereN’T sent each others profiles’ ;)

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Twee

28 February 2010 12:34

ps Mike TOOA – did you put in yor own Twitter page into the website box thingy – or just a link to Twitter?

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Mike (the other one again)

28 February 2010 14:09

Hi Twee … it was just a link to Twitter in general. I think my ‘real’ Twitter page would scare people off. I just use Twitter to rant at things :-)

Everyone is invited to Brighton (for anyone not getting it, it’ll be a virtual trip of course). If we could find a friendly bulletin board this would be easier. I am setting one up but might not have it sorted by Thursday … too much to sort out.

My internet has become very variable since BT ‘upgraded’ my line(!)

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BoogieGirl

28 February 2010 16:09

Hi everyone,

Oh dear, having promised myself never to do the internet dating thing again, I caved in to EH as it seemed to provide a real alternative to the “normal” ones. Been on for about 2 weeks, first matches all looked promising – nicely complete profiles, but all the new ones since are barely there – one word answers or just the tick box ones. So I figured maybe because they’ve just signed up and more info will appear soon, sounds like maybe I was too optimistic! The guys I communicated with from the first ones haven’t answered – even to “close” me instantly so I’m guessing aren’t visiting the site anymore. I agree a flag to say how recently they’ve logged in would save a lot of effort and I keep opening some to see if a pic has arrived -glad only the most recent view is shown else they might think I’m a stalker! How do you change settings? When I click on that tab the only option is how strongly I feel about height(I don’t!)

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Mike

1 March 2010 02:18

Mike (TOOA)

Sounds good but not looking for virtual relationships in a Virtual World….But whatever floats ones Virtual Boat :-)

If peeps ever meet up in the real world let me know

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Shirley

1 March 2010 16:17

Just to be see-through, transparent and crystal clear. An “away day” was open to all on the forum. I don’t like cliques.
One of the successful elements of Plenty of Fish ( a free but slightly murky dating site) is their local meets. Compatability is great but hampered if you live 200 miles from each other. Rather than having one date per person you meet swathes of people in one go!
My friend met his girlfriend at one of these a year ago and they are still together.
It would be an idea if EH organised county meets at nice stately piles with a couple of activities thrown in to keep people circulating – archery/ clay pigeon…
ah I am getting carried away with fanciful notions – all, Mike, of the non virtual type.

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Mike

1 March 2010 19:47

Shirley there are plenty of outfits that do the type of stuff you are talking about, have tried a few, RSVP, Dinner Dates, Across The Room, Contact Singles , the problem with these events for me is that , firstly the ladies tend to go in three’s and many are after nowt more than a chin wag and social and/or the ladies are in their late 50’s as are most of the chaps.
The few “younger” women I have met at the events have been the City types who want it all , but haven’t any time for a relationship as still climbing the greasy corporate pole.
As I have said eH should be seen as complementary to meeting people the usual way.

Anyway I had a Tarot reading today and I’m due to meet a foreign lady and emigrate to the US ….so busy packing whilst ordering various lingo guides

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Shirley

1 March 2010 20:28

Mike: I’m intrigued by the ladies going to events in threes. Do men traditionally turn up solo and then feel they can’t intrude on a gaggle of gossiping gals?
It made me laugh to think that it is the fellers who are the shrinking violets.
Good luck with the States – did you get the 9 of cups then?

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Mike

1 March 2010 22:52

Nowt to do with flowers more to do with us blokes ( who in the main fly solo) not wanted nil return for a lot of effort ie my going along to these things
A bloke isn’t going to try and chat up a lady who is surrounded by her mates all holding court, seems to be an insecurity thing with certain women that they can’t go to any social functions alone, or if alone spend the evening collecting other women’s numbers to meet up at the next ball.

The best one was when I ended up on a table with three such women , one turned round to the other two in front of me and exclaimed “shame no decent blokes here” I responded with ” have you looked in the mirror recently” placed my napkin on the table, smiled sweetly and walked off

No 9 of cups , dunno if all mumbo jumbo but was quite interesting

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Clinton

1 March 2010 22:56

No need to pack Mike… you’re gonna need to buy new clothes after a few months there. I visited there for 6 months a few years ago and my waist went from 30″ to 34″. Hooooly crap. Was fortunately active enough to lose it all again :)

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Sarah

1 March 2010 23:33

Mike: as a single lady I do go to these dos on my own, get ignored by the gaggles of ladies who don’t need a 4th and by the blokes. All of whom seem to be working their way into the gaggles. A single lady seems to mean ‘no-friends-what’s wrong with her-will be needy?’
At least I tell myself it’s not the beard and the hunch over my left shoulder (hardly noticeable if I take the shoulder pad out on that side).

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Sarah

1 March 2010 23:35

Shirley- I really am up for a real meet and really do have a real sister in the real Brighton, but I really can’t make this Thurs.

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Twee

1 March 2010 23:55

I am up for meeting up too :) Can’t afford a holiday but a day out with you lot sounds just as much fun :)
Re: the dating game, I have a similar problem, I won’t approach guys and they never approach me… Although I am outgoing – I am very shy when it comes to dating :)
Tell you the truth – if I had known that a quick flirt on a message thread would lead to me swapping emails with them, pause to wink at Clinton ;) , well then in all honesty – I wouldn’t have done it… (don’t worry Clinton, I am glad I did :) )

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Mike

1 March 2010 23:58

Clinton , I have family in NY so there quite a bit , and yes I did mention that in the pre tarot chat , hence the good lady made her prediction armed with certain knowledge. I’m a 40 waist already and have eaten all the UK pies.
Sarah ….you must be one of the few …The Bells, the Bells

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Mike

2 March 2010 00:00

Twee ,
A meet would be good but can’t help feeling we would all be playing Gooseberry to you and Clinton :-)

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Clinton

2 March 2010 01:39

Well… I’m not terribly outgoing because I don’t drink beer or cider and I don’t try and match people drink for drink – I know that my alcohol tolerance isn’t very high. For some reason people find this upsetting.

I find that one glass of wine is enough to make me chatty enough to socialise. No idea why people feel they have drink themselves under the table.

Mike: We’d need to be an actual couple first before gooseberrying becomes possible :p

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Nadia

2 March 2010 01:43

Just closed another match who fancies himself as a bit of a porn star, judging by the photos (yes, I had to endure more than one!). Good grief, I thought that sort of thing would have been caught by the filters?! It makes me wonder if it’s me. It must be me, as I’m the common denominator?? Clearly my profile is sending some subliminal message which is attracting all manner of unsuitables and sugar daddies? I was rather depressed, and then I came on here, and had a good chuckle. All is well now, and sun will still rise tomorrow. :-) Thank you so much!!

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Clinton

2 March 2010 07:23

Nadia: It’s a free service we provide :)

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Dom

2 March 2010 14:58

Call me shallow but I would really appreciate being able to select men over a certain height only. I am looking for a man to dance with along with everything else and quite frankly I want am man who is capable of throwing me over his shoulder. I keep getting matches that are mostly Indian and under 5″6.
I also am very confused by a significant number of matches who have ticked the I have no children box and then go on to talk about their their son’s and daughters being the centre of their lives…what is going on with that?
I also live in a fairly rural area and have selected an unlimited radius, as suggested, but the nearest match to me has been 50 odd miles away. Can this site, like most others actually, offer the same service in big cities than smaller ones?

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Sarah

2 March 2010 15:59

Clinton- you reckon anyone would pay for this rubbish? Oh yeah… I forgot we are…
Mike- I leave the bells at home when I go out, but you can pull the other one.

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Mike (the other one again)

2 March 2010 16:41

I have a ‘friend’ (honest – it’s not me; nor is he imaginary) who tried several of these ‘meet up’ sites and he had a similar experience. Groups of women who went there for a laugh, rather than to meet anyone. It doesn’t sound promising. Oh – it’s such a tricky old game isn’t it?

Well a real meet could really work, but do consider that you know nothing about the people chatting here. You don’t even have to be an eH member to post here, so anyone could be anything. Always be very cautious of meeting up in person. Take appropriate security measures (tazer, pepper spray, grenade, …)

Of course, Sarah will be fine. No-one will see her behind the beard, and I’ve heard she swings a mean clapper!

Oh – I really don’t live anywhere near to the real Brighton, so I really can’t come. My fancy took flight. It often does. I coax it back with breadcrumbs and hard liquor.

Nadia – I’m jealous. I think I’ve only had one ‘fake model’ go after me. Someone who hasn’t looked at your profile, but sends an icebreaker, then you look and the profile is almost empty apart from some professional glamour shots (link available upon request).

Okay – I have documentation to write!

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Mike

2 March 2010 18:45

Nadia….Apologies for my raunchy photo, I have just been caught by the filters and blimey did that make my eyes water…aaagh.

Dom…..Have you tried the local fire station , I believe throwing people over shoulders part of the training, the only small Indian I would want to match with would be a Korma and Pilau Rice.

The children thing isn’t set right as apparently the question is something like “do you have any children living at home” a NO doesn’t mean they haven’t any children, just haven’t any living with them, which is often the case with male divorcees.
I haven’t I am also over 5′6 and can do a mean Ceroc as well as Agadoo and the Birdy Song …

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Mike (the other one again)

2 March 2010 20:30

testing again!

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Mike (the other one again)

2 March 2010 20:32

There are some websites, that if you put in the ‘website’ area then you can’t post! I have set-up a forum on one of those free sites in case these comments get closed. The trick is in letting people know the address!

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Mike

2 March 2010 23:18

Just email us the address !

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Mike

3 March 2010 00:33

I was just wondering is everyone on here in the UK??? I would have thought this being a US run site most would be yanks or is this forum just on the UK portal ( if such a thing?)

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Nadia

3 March 2010 00:36

Clinton: Correction. This page is THE only service EH has provided to me so far. :-) In fact, they haven’t even provided THAT, as it wasn’t intended to be a discussion forum.

Sarah: I’m embarrassed to say I’ve only just reached the conclusion that my subscription solely pays for the privilege to select ‘closed’ once every few days. Man, I feel cheated, at 32 falling for the oldest trick in the book.

Mike: busted!! ;-)

To ‘The Other One’: If there is an email address for a proper chat forum floating about, please let us know, as I may have to use it as a counselling service to recover from, and to humour, this sorry episode.

Anyway, best get on. I have an appointment with my wireless mouse; we’re working on ‘Project Closure’ together.

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Nadia

3 March 2010 00:43

I reckon it automatically defaults to the local portal when you enter the site, so I think everyone on here is from UK.

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Mike

3 March 2010 00:52

Nadia

Have fun with the wireless mouse , I think we have all smelt the coffee the chances of getting a decent “live” match pretty slim, the chances that the person isn’t a Bunny Boiler , Homicidal Maniac or an Accountant even slimmer !

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Mike

3 March 2010 01:02

I was also just wondering why you youngsters ( 32 somethings) need this site ,when I was that age loads of single peeps amongst my circle of friends and plenty of places for the under 40’s to meet ie bars/clubs , isn’t that the done thing any more? I thought these sites were the preserve for those that have left it too late , who’s friends were all now in relationships or those that have come out of relationships. Maybe 14 is the new 20 something, seems like it where I live , loads of juvenile pram pushers

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Sarah

3 March 2010 01:55

Mike: sorry to tell you this, but that last post made you sound so… old…
Bless.

I turned my matching off a week ago so that I can winnow through the ones I’ve got left (after ditching the visa hopefuls) and give them plenty of time to fail to view me, fail to respond and then fail to respond and then fail to respond. This way I can kid myself that I’ve only got decent matches (even though they don’t respond,) and that as I’m so spoilt for choice I can close them. Not only that, I’ll have a treat when I turn my matches back on ‘cos I might even have some more!
Having said that, either everyone is being close about their good ones or I’m getting way over my fair share of normal matches; all filled in, photos, British citizenship (without the need for a quick visa update), whole sentences…
Now if they’d TALK TO ME I’d be laughing.

Dom: my nearest was 45 miles (before I closed him).

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Clinton

3 March 2010 07:44

Whenever someone closes me I send them a “Good luck with your search message”. Not that that happens often. Most of my matches are dead :)

Not that I bother with my matches at this point. *winks at Twee*

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Mike

3 March 2010 18:51

Clinton………….

I think they should have ” I wish you all the best, but your loss” and “Good luck, face bothered” :-)

Sarah …..I am old

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Sarah

3 March 2010 19:28

Mike- just been looking back; yes this is the UK commentary. I managed to get onto the equivalent US ‘forum’ and it was very, um, American. I got swamped at the point where they were arguing over the fashion impact of wearing cowboy boots with hot pants. There was lots and lots of punctuation.

I’m sorry you are/feel so… old.

Clinton: What have you done with Twee? Another day of silence and we’re going to need proof of life.

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Mike (the other one again)

3 March 2010 20:33

Uh-huh. Clinton … what’s that mound of fresh earth doing in your garden?

I have set up a site which allows open forum chat (like this but a proper forum); can send messages to members (a-la stage 4 here) and has IM too! Problem is, pretty slow and still trying to make it so you can’t just browse members. I think it’s better to meet “in public” then go more ‘private’ if you hit it off. Anyway it has a bug at the moment, but soon.

It’s on that social site where you go! I’m sure we’ll all like to meet n chat with people!

Now, will I receive a stiff warning (ooh-err).

My internet appears to be fixed at last!

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Mike (the other one again)

3 March 2010 20:34

eH is an hour out! Trapped on BST.

And this is UK only … so far as I can tell.

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Twee

3 March 2010 20:47

Hey everyone! Haha hey Sarah I escaped from Clinton’s locked cellar in one piece!
:)
ps just to confirm – this IS a joke, I don’t want my name being mentioned on the 10 o’clock news.

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Mike

3 March 2010 21:30

Twee

This whole thing is a joke :-)

Unless you have ditched a golfer or a footballer to find yourself trapped in a cellar unlikely to make the 10 o’cock news

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Twee

3 March 2010 22:17

Hey Mike, what channel is that on please? I want to stay away from that version of the news ;)

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Mike

3 March 2010 22:36

OOOOps a smelling mistake well spotted dick :-)

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Nadia

3 March 2010 22:54

Mike: Fear not, I DO regularly go out, and occasionally meet new people the conventional way (i.e. tipsy and at the bar, whilst showing off my skills on the dance floor). I don’t just sit at home with cats nursing my repetitive strain injury caused by Project Closure you know! ;-)
When I’m out I tend to focus on the company that I’m with, so there really aren’t any pulling opportunities (or if there are, I haven’t pursued them).
The majority of my friends are either in long term relationships or busy with their kids. So, in many ways, even at the youthful age of 32 (33 on Saturday!), I experience the same obstacles faced by those that have ‘left it too late’, as you put it.
Twee: Don’t know you, but glad you are alive and well!

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Nadia

4 March 2010 00:13

Mike: Fear not, I DO regularly go out, and occasionally meet new people the conventional way (i.e. tipsy and at the bar, whilst showing off my skills on the dance floor). I don’t just sit at home with cats nursing my repetitive strain injury caused by Project Closure you know! ;-)
When I’m out I tend to focus on the company that I’m with, so there really aren’t any pulling opportunities (or if there are, I haven’t pursued them).
The majority of my friends are either in long term relationships or busy with their kids. So, in many ways, even at the youthful age of 32 (33 on Saturday!), I experience the same obstacles faced by those that have ‘left it too late’, as you put it.
Twee: Don’t know you, but glad you are alive and well!
To everyone else: Hope you all have a good Thursday!

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Sarah

4 March 2010 01:50

Nadia- Hurrah! someone else gets double posts too!

Mike (TOOA)- well done for working out the time zones. I was wondering why my dates weren’t getting anywhere. Oh, but that’s a whole new subject.

Twee- glad you’re safe, honey. Remember the safety tips and don’t let Clinton get close with that axe.

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Clinton

4 March 2010 07:25

Don’t go scaring her – things are difficult enough as it is. And axes have no finesse anyway ;)

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Sarah

4 March 2010 14:16

I’m on again to vent some spleen. Only a little bit. The petty, cross bit that prompts you to tell everyone without there being anything much to tell.
I turned my matches back on and got some nice looking possibilities. And by the time I’d read through them, one had closed. So nothing to get upset about apart from that he was close enough to be practical and I quite liked his profile. But his reason was “I’d rather not say,” so I scurry back to my own profile to wonder what on earth put him off so quickly. It CAN’T be the beard, because I shaved for the photos. And I stood with one leg on a milk crate, so I’m all straight as well. Then I discover that he hasn’t even viewed me. If his cursor slipped that gives me : “This match never responded to my attempts to communicate”. And okay, so the other one is taking a break from dating, but then why didn’t he turn off matching?
I told you it was petty. I’m back off to my cave to sulk in the dark and mumble vague obscenities into my beard (grown back nicely), and give occasional cries of “AND another thing-”

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Twee

4 March 2010 19:46

Hey everyone! Friday tomorrow! :)
Ha ha! Sarah you crack me up! :)

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Mike

4 March 2010 20:29

My therapist told me how to handle rejection , after I went on my rampage with the chainsaw ;-)

Nadia……..I heard you the first time

Sarah……..Give up I have, only log on to read the posts on here

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Sarah

5 March 2010 00:04

Mike: You mean you’ve become one of those ghost matches? You swine! Turncoat! By the way, what make of chainsaw? I have a hedge trimmer, but I don’t think it has any real rampage potential.

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Mike (the other one again)

5 March 2010 00:30

Awww … I know how you feel Sarah. Those peple who close you without even looking! Grrrr. I console myself with two thoughts:
(1) maybe they *did* look and eH is just not showing that they viewed you
(2) this is a game where you only have to throw the right number once, so it’s a lot like winning the lottery – you can look as though you’re in last place, then win from nowhere.

And enough of those strained analogies now.

BBC iPlayer through a Wii is really good!

I completely forgot about Brighton. Old age.

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Keri

5 March 2010 01:12

I had to laugh at some of the profiles. Several of the matches I was sent are brief to say the least. Guys- please make the effort to complete the profiles otherwise your first impression is ‘I cant be arsed!’Not a good selling point. And 3 of those were from guys in Marketing!!!. Go figure.

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Sarah

6 March 2010 00:12

Keri: The best profile I read had something like: “Things x is passionate about:
“Sports and something and something else and I don’t have time to elaborate on this now.”
There wasn’t much else! And Surprise! there wasn’t a photo either!
Have a good weekend, everyone.

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Clinton

6 March 2010 11:52

The “close-reason” that I found the funniest is “I just don’t feel that the chemistry is there”. What chemistry are you talking about? You haven’t talked to me. There has to be interaction for there to be “chemistry”.

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Mike

6 March 2010 15:40

Clinton …..

For many gals if you don’t look like Brad Pitt or some other hunk , then the chemistry isn’t there , simples ;-)

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Keri

6 March 2010 16:33

Oh Dear my latest match wants me to know that he is insecure and hurts a lot of the time, and doesn’t like to appear needy………mmmmmm…..Taxi !!!!

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Mike

6 March 2010 19:37

Was that needy or nerdy????

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Sarah

6 March 2010 19:46

Mike: I thought it was blokes who wanted women to look like anorexic sticks with air-brushed skin, flawless makeup and 9″ heels.
I’ve had a closure do to a lack of chemistry.
I’d like them to put : “there is nothing in this profile to base any chemistry on,” for all those not-filled ones. Sometimes there isn’t even enough there to be able to send the icebreaker “You look interesting, why don’t you fill out the questions.”
In those cases I sometimes put my reason for closing as “based on statements in this profile…”

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Clinton

6 March 2010 22:54

If all women would only go for hunks, then that certainly explain all the single 40-something women you see these days…

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Mike (the other one again)

7 March 2010 00:34

I always go for “based on statements” or “too much distance”. And there are lots of women’s profiles as well with barely any information. Or those that have written EVERYTHING IN CAPS.
Or those that say there passionate about X-Factor (living the dream).

I’ve been bitten by some cynical tonight. And those matches have dried up.

And one woman that I was communiting with has posted pics of herself … ummm … not completely dressed, shall I say?!

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Sarah

7 March 2010 01:33

She sounds lovely Mike TOOA: waiting for the right person… the right moment…
well, never mind. I’ve had a few matches with similar photos, but they haven’t waited for us to be conversing before they post them. Is that better or worse?
I tend to put “I want to pursue other matches”; like, any other match. But most of mine end up being “this match steadfastly refused to communicate with me”.

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Mike

7 March 2010 01:48

Sarah………….Not into sticks but also not into tree trunks, each has to be realistic , if you are a size 22 then you have to cut your cloth accordingly and realise a large % of chaps won’t be interested, and posting just a head shot doesn’t fool us neither does the description cuddly ;-)

I am realistic and don’t expect to attract the gals as you have described , just looking for an average lady with a good personality however there has to be some attraction and obese or thin as a rake doesn’t float my boat.

I would say 80% of recent matches have had little in the way of information or a photo ….One today started with the line ” I spend most evenings at work” Well unless she expected men to date her at her desk, she was onto a loser with that opening line straight away.
Quite a few profiles usually from the City types intimate they would like a chap to fit in around their business career, others have a big want list including “must be attractive and well presented” when they themselves look like they have eaten all the pies and have dressed in the dark…Makes me laugh……:-)

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Mike

7 March 2010 01:59

Re the closing reason I usually put OTHER unless no picture when I put that as the reason. On a couple of occasions I have put the “I would rather not say” usually when the gal looks liked Fred Scuttles sister.
The least used is of course ” we are communicating outside of eH” chance would be a fine thing:-)

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Sarah

7 March 2010 16:56

Mike- I’m size 14, have head and body photo posted and I get closed by men who are looking for more glamour. They tend to be in their late 40s-50s, have posted a photo of themselves at least 20 years younger (so I’m unable to comment on their size of beer gut,) and want a lady who is attractive and ‘takes pride in her appearance’ as well as being ‘well mannered/soft spoken/polite’ (doormats who’ll do their cooking and cleaning while they carry on with their lives).
So. Some people are single and bloody well deserve to be.

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Mike

7 March 2010 18:16

Sarah
As have said it’s about compromise, a mate of mine is the same , 54 and won’t consider anything over 40 , he is nowt to look at and is likely to end up a lonely old man.
Realistically unless a chap is minted , the sort that could do a shower gel advert or for some bizarre reason doing life for murder , most reasonably looking women under 40 wouldn’t bother giving a chap late 40’s + the time of day…..

Those looking for more glamour probably married and looking for some bit on the side eye candy to boast about, so just hit the close button

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Rebecca

8 March 2010 01:09

I was tempted today to sign up with EH however I now feel after reading this forum I should keep my money in the bank or at least have a good night out on the town instead. I’m glad I read all your honest comments about the site – I am a dating website beginner so was unsure about it all anyway.
Good Luck to Clinton & Twee.

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Sarah

8 March 2010 13:15

Guys, guys- we are doing this all wrong! If we’re putting people off, how are we ever going to get them little fishes into the pond to go fishn’ for?
Positive comments, people; positive.
I feel this is the time to admit that I will soon be using the ultimate ‘close’ line, as I AM communicating outside of eH (and it is with one of my eH matches, so no cheat…)
Pity Clinton and Twee can’t do the same as they weren’t matched in the first place.
But C&T aside, we need to be showing those happy, smiley faces! Feel the passion! Um, yes! Think of something to say! Anything!

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Mike

8 March 2010 16:43

Sarah

Re the ultimate line , even when I did chat with ” the two” by other means still kept them OPEN as felt a bit rude closing and had their profile/picture as a reference to remind me about them before/if we met.

I am really all out of positives to say about eH having just clicked through 23 matches and closed 18 of them mainly due to no picture or distance, checked the 16 or so I communicated with 4 closed messages and the remainder the rude No Replies ( even a closed message would do and would be some sort of acknowledgement ) I know two of them have viewed me so not ghost profile.I now have over 1200 in my closed list.

Rebecca
As I have said the fee to join small in comparison to a dating agency and may work for you, but wouldn’t hold ones breath especially if one lives in a remote location or is too specific with their matching criteria, again ( as this is what the thread is about) No picture or a pants picture reduces ones chances I would say as much as 40%, smoker 50% If you are very skinny or obese another 20% a midget or bean pole another 20% etc etc. Even if you get matches I would say only 2 in 10 may respond ,I have never got a request to communicate from a gal who has viewed my profile, all one way.

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Mike (the other one again)

8 March 2010 23:25

Oh dear … these comments *are* sounding negative now!

Apart from some silence (partly from me), I have been more impressed by eH than otehr similar sites. At least I get quite a few hits, but maybe I have wide matching criteria.

And most people at least respond. Okay – maybe not, I do have about 20 ‘pendings’ but also 4-5 in communication at various stages. I think there is some merit in guided communication, but it really is only snippets of a person of course.

Come on down Rebecca. The prize is right(!)

And apologies all around. I wrote “…those that say there passionate about X-Factor” ‘There’!? How could I – “they’re”. I hate myself.

Come on over to my site … chat for free!

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Mike

9 March 2010 01:35

Mike (TOOA)

See what you are saying mate but after being on here six months, having various ladies at various stages of communication in cyberspace just wears one down, as one knows full well the chances of getting to actually meet up pretty slim , usually due to a tick in the wrong box ,a question one has answered wrongly , or in a few cases one has disgraced themselves re poor grammar……..Quite often weeks between responses to questions which becomes rather tedious

Hence once my subscription ends will be closing down.

Oh and it’s the “Price is Right” compared by the chap with the dyed hair that did Crappyjack…Leslie Crowther

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Sarah

9 March 2010 14:33

Mike- get yourself a stiff gin, go on holiday (take yourself off matching 1st though) and/or get a deep breath of fresh air… you really do sound depressed.

If it’s any consolation, I have also been the one sending out reams of questions and have only had one person send any questions to me. And I will still converse with a match that ticks a wrong box because I’m not looking for a clone of myself. I have been on the site for a month (as of yesterday,) and have closed 100 matches so I’ve a way to go yet, and I reckon that means you get over twice as many matches as I do in the first place.

I’m not going to go down the eH route and suggest you re-write your profile… in your current mood that could be scary!
But cheer up. Who else will I have to talk to if you go off the rails? And Mike TOO won’t be TOO if there’s no original to be TOO to…

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Clinton

9 March 2010 20:36

Doesn’t look like anybody else has been having trouble getting to this page for the last few days.

Should mention that there are a couple of reasons why eH would probably never match myself with Twee. However, as Sarah mentioned, you are ideally looking for someone to compliment yourself as opposed to a carbon copy.

That said, no pressure mmm?

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Twee

9 March 2010 20:43

Hey Everyone! :)
Seeing as we are all admiting things…. I actually cancelled my membership after a week… hee hee. What wasn’t right for me was the whole ‘close’ thing. I found it really cold – I know it does the job and lets you know where you stand straight away and that’s not a bad thing. But I was left with even lower self asteem :( Quite simply for me, I wasn’t going to pay for something that makes me feel bad even for one second because for me life is too short to fill it with crap. But I was so happy to find this forum and have grown so fond of everyone here. This forum shows that there are decent people out there – somewhere!
So I reckon if you’ve tried it and it doesn’t work for you, maybe try something else….
Good luck Sarah :)
Big hug for Mike :)
Where’s your chatroom address Mike TOO? :)
And winks and a date for Clinton ;)

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Clinton

9 March 2010 21:52

Now I feel all embarrassed I said no pressure! :)

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Twee

9 March 2010 21:59

lol :)

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Mike (the other one again)

9 March 2010 23:18

Twee … I gave clues to the address. No point in making it TOO easy(!) (that’s not a clue, but a nod to Sarah). There’s a word needed to get in. And you are the answer (well, you or your twin from Mr Dodgson’s famous book). meetnchat

I closed my naked match today. And my new match was passionate about ‘TBC’ and spent her time ‘TBC’. Woah … steady on girl. socialgo

I’d never end a sentence without a full-stop of course. Not without reason anyway! com

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Mike

10 March 2010 01:00

Sarah…..Cheers off on a Billies holiday this week so may have some luck who knows, but from previous experience most of those going serial online daters

Mike (TOOA) go to 226 and email me the link

Twee ….Hope it works out I agree with you Twee life is too short maybe if those that I had messaged had the manners to reply or even close me wouldn’t feel that it’s all a waste of time/money and yes does lower ones self esteem , just checked my closed folder and I have closed 2200 I suspect most of them ghost profiles. I have met 2 ladies and I suspect got open communication with about another 8, so not very good odds.

But as they say The Odds may be Good, but The Goods Odd

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Twee

10 March 2010 20:01

I just wrote a comment and it didn’t get posted! Maybe it’ll turn up later in double?
Mike TOO… I get your book clue… thanks to wikepidia anyway… :) but I still haven’t worked out meetnchat…? Is that a type of french cat?
I get the ‘com stop go social’ but at? I think blokes are better at these sort of games… I don’t know what TBC is either, I thought it stood for To Be Continued… oh dear…
:) :):):):):):):):):):):):):):)

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Garry

11 March 2010 11:43

Twee, TBC can also be To Be Confirmed, dunno if that helps you any (don’t remember seeing Mike TOOA’s clues). Also for the main clue you’re stuck on, simply google it – I’m sure something will jump out at you ;-)

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Garry

11 March 2010 11:46

Hey all, btw – been reading for the last couple of days, took a while to reach the bottom :-)

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Clinton

11 March 2010 19:58

Hello Garry, and welcome to the club :)

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Mike (the other one again)

11 March 2010 21:00

Twee – you have it then! Just those final three words on those lines (the ones without full-stops after them) stuck together with full-stops between them … then register using that ‘twin’ access code. Simples!

I’ve sent Mike (the original one!) an email with details. You’ll know the site when you see it. It’s created by Mike TOOA!

Well …..

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Twee

11 March 2010 22:50

Hey everyone and new member :)
Hey Mike TOOA… ok now I get where to go but the clue I got, I maybe now don’t…

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Twee

11 March 2010 22:54

Hope Sarah is ok… and where did Shirley disappear to?

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Nadia

12 March 2010 01:09

Hey everyone,
I’ve been quiet since my inadvertant ‘double-post’. Don;t have a clue what happened there!
Looks like I have to take some time out and do some catching up by scrolling through the clues.
Good to see you’re all well and spirits are high :-)
Chat soon x

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Nadia

12 March 2010 01:11

Darn, I’ve spotted various typos on my previous message. Forgive me!

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Sarah

12 March 2010 18:22

Twee- I’m fine, I’m happy… very happy…!

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Clinton

12 March 2010 22:16

Sounds like Sarah’s met her match hehe ;)

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Mike (the other one again)

13 March 2010 20:57

Twee … what’s the problem? There’s only two possibles for that final code! Certainly not dum!!

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Clinton

13 March 2010 21:27

I tried both – neither worked…

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Mike (the other one again)

14 March 2010 14:11

Clinton … I’ll try it out again to make sure it workd. Ummm … I do honour the existence of hyphens of course. -dee

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Sarah

16 March 2010 20:52

Hello to everyone who has been on this thread and everyone who wades through it after us!
I am closing this match, because I have found the most amazing man- streets ahead of anything I could have hoped for.
I am almost embarrassed to have found him here, after all the negativity on this page!
And in the end I am a fickle friend because I can’t be bothered to work out all the clues to tell you face to face that I’m dumping you:-)
Goodbye and good luck for you all, in all your searches.

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Nadia

17 March 2010 01:42

Oh my GOD, can’t belive you found someone through EH!
Good for you Sarah, and all the best!
:-)

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Clinton

17 March 2010 19:35

That is the thing though. You only have to get lucky once. Checked my matches for the first time today in weeks. Seriously EH, why all the nursery teachers???

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Nadia

17 March 2010 23:51

What’s the matter with nursery teachers? Stop the hateration! (I’m not in teaching myself, but I have several friends that are.)

Funnily enough, I always get builders or IT folk? It is always very specific on these two occupations.

I don’t recall specifically asking for a man that fixes things. I do recall, however, asking for mentally stable people, but that request has oddly been overlooked? Oh well, beggars can’t be choosers.

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Sal

18 March 2010 00:00

Good grief! you lot have opened my eyes. Only wish I had known all this 2 days ago.
Still not sure what I am doing, how does one close a match? Loads have popped up but are terrifying, and I cant get rid of them.

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Garry

18 March 2010 10:00

Hehe, I seem to get lots of HR Managers! Strange how these things happen from time to time :-)

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Nadia

18 March 2010 21:00

Sal: Closing is my speciality! From the home page click on the name of the person you want to close. Scroll down their profile page – select ‘close match’ option on the bottom right of the page. Then it will ask you for a reason, select and close.

Garry: I’m a HR Manager, so it follows that you work in construction or IT? I would be astounded if you had a different occupation. :-)

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Nadia

18 March 2010 22:10

Mike TOOA – I’ve got everything except ‘access’ to my weekend escape? Do you understand… I know I’m being thick. Give me a clue please. Cheers!

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Clinton

18 March 2010 22:52

Think it’s tweedle-dee.

I have nothing against teachers. Honourable profession. I just find it odd that I get matched with so many…

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Nadia

19 March 2010 01:02

Cheers Clinton!
Oh, I’ve also been matched with three refuse collectors this week… no offence, admirable job, but I’m a little perplexed by it. Is that wrong of me?

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Clinton

19 March 2010 07:07

4 new matches today. Including 1 teaching assistant, 1 nursery teacher and 1 social worker who works with children.

It’s just really, really odd.

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Garry

19 March 2010 10:02

Yes Nadia, I work in IT – please don’t hold it against me! ;-)

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Mike (the other one again)

19 March 2010 19:03

Nadia … sorted!

I mainly get teachers, lecturers, and nurse! I’ve just assumed that these must be lonely professions. Well, ones where you don’t encounter a lot of suiters it would appear. But maybe it’s what I’ve asked for?!?

It is gloomy and raining here today, reflecting my mood.

Hi Garry and Sal!

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Clinton

19 March 2010 20:31

Mike: I was thinking that today. Maybe I’ve asked for someone caring, compassionate and patient. In which case a teacher would fit the bill…

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Nadia

19 March 2010 22:57

Mike: Cheers! You need a proper marketing campaign, or else I’ll be chatting to yourself… ring any bells? We don’t want a repeat performance do we now?

Clinton: perhaps there were some questions in that ‘oh so long’ questionnaire that we all completed originally (eithout fully understanding the consequences) that implied you had ’special needs’, and they thought you needed looking after? Don’t be surprised if some nannies pop us tomorrow! :-)

Garry: So why haven’t they matched us then? They have failed me yet again! I will be submitting a complaint immediately.

Anyway, have a great Friday people! I am off out for a beverage now, I need it. Night!

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Nadia

19 March 2010 23:00

what is it with me a typos??

Amendments:

Mike: myself, not yourself.

Clinton: without, not eithout.
nannies pop up… not pop us!

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Ali

19 March 2010 23:19

Wow, I’m new to EH and just made it through the questionaire! Certain that was harder than my school exams and the specialist subject was supposed to be me!! Not sure if the G&Ts were helping either.
Just stumbled across this page, hadn’t realised there was so much going on. Just gotta decide whether this is a good idea and subscribe?? After I’ve located a half decent photo.

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Clinton

20 March 2010 00:29

I don’t need looking after. Usually I’m the one doing the looking-after. Have in the past done way too much to keep doomed relationships going :)

But it does seem rather difficult to find a “decent” person in London. Everyone I know seems to have a new boyfriend or girlfriend each week and that kind of thing still puzzles me after 4 years here.

So I’m old-fashioned. Sue me :)

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Conor

20 March 2010 02:01

Hi folks,
I literally only just joined up, but immediately spotted a problem. On my home page there’s no facility to contact eharmony, I also don’t see a ‘Help’ or ‘FAQ’ facility. Unless I’m missing something obvious??
Thanks in advance (for any helpful comments!)

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eharmony

20 March 2010 09:53

Hi there Conor,

Thanks for your query. You’ll find links to our help section at the bottom (in the footer) of the pages before and after you log in. Here is the link for your convenience:

http://help-singles.eharmony.co.uk/app/home

On this page you will find answers to many of the eHarmony related questions you may have. You will also find our freephone help number.

I hope this has answered your question.

Best wishes,
eHarmony Advice

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Mike (the other one again)

20 March 2010 12:52

Oooh look! eH are reading this still. Yay them for letting is carry on our little chats.

Hi Ali as well. Hey … all you guys appear to be from London, so it ought to be easy for you. I’ve heard tales that there are lots of people in London.

Garry – come on over to our place and chat there. Oh … and everyone else too (Nadia … I’m not in marketing, and that’s as good as I can do).

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Clinton

20 March 2010 14:36

The problem with London is that it is bloody huge. The problem with being matched with people within a 30 mile radius is that a 30 mile radius is bloody huge. Living on the Surrey border I can tell you that there’s no point in matching me with someone in Hertfordshire. Perhaps eH is still attuned to the average American county where there’s lots of open space and people are used to just driving everywhere. Friend of mine used to drive from Toledo to Detroit to work every day. That’s about 60 miles and it would take him less than an hour. Can you imagine driving through or around London taking that long?

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Nadia

20 March 2010 23:45

Mike TOOA – that’ll do luv i.r.o. marketing.

Clinton – You need to move away from chavvy Croydon asap. It’s no good for your self-esteem dear. Any area falling outside the underground system is sadly tragic unless you drive. Fear not, something will come up soon, project a bit of positive energy… it’s a big world out there.

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Clinton

21 March 2010 07:23

a. I don’t live in Croydon and I would move if I did :)

b. There is nothing wrong with my self-esteem. I think I’m awesome ;)

c. I am on the Underground system. Although it is hard to tell with the District line…

d. I was merely pointing out that that big world is part of the problem.

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Mike (the other one again)

21 March 2010 10:54

Nadia – I had to look up ‘i.r.o.’ (us guys from the sticks are so stoopid). The last time I was in London I had a magical time. I’ll tell about it in that other place (someone ought to post).

Clinton – are you saying there are too many fish and you need a fine filtering net? And those ordered lists are revealing(!)

What are you doing up so early on Sunday? 5000 KP out.

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Clinton

21 March 2010 11:27

I was up early because I went to bed at 9.

I don’t think London girls are too interested in long-term relationships. After all, life’s a party; why ruin it?

In fact, I have observed that most foreigners here tend to end up with people from their own country; probably a better chance of shared values.

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Nadia

21 March 2010 23:28

Mike TOOA – You’re not stupid at all, in fact, quite the opposite, You’re certainly more IT literate than I will ever hope to be. Will talk on the other place ;-)

Clinton – I was only kidding to wind you up man… hey it worked! Man… relax! I believe it when you say you’re not from Croydon. I hear you about the big world, where everyone looks down at their feet on the tube, and daren’t make eye contact with their neighbours.

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Clinton

22 March 2010 07:22

That and just pure distance :)

Went on two dates with Twee, and we got along quite well. Problem is we live almost 2 hours apart. Yet, we’re both still in London :)

I think that if people say they live in London they should maybe also consider adding where in London they are. Just a thought.

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Mike (the other one again)

22 March 2010 10:50

Two hours! Cripes. When I go up to London I have taken to walking above ground(!) providing the weather is fine. It seems healthier and sometimes quicker than the tube. I do recall going for courses near Feltham(?) and that involved 45 mins out to terminal 4; then a bus journey; then a walk. Over and hour and all in London.

You could both hop on a train and meet in Leicester in less time!

I guess it’s the same in most larger cities that have a ‘greater’ part.

Well, I must trundle on … I am getting 7 matches a day now. But not very good ones unfortunately.

Where has Mike gone?

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Nadia

23 March 2010 01:23

Clinton: make the effort… it’s only 2 hours, cor blimey! And, if you get along with someone, you never know, circumstances i.e. distance does not have to be a permanent thing.
Mike: You will have to track him down and make sure he has not been attacked by one of the closed matches? :-)

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Clinton

23 March 2010 07:54

Hehe… didn’t say I wouldn’t make an effort. Just that it’s difficult. That and conflicting schedules.

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Mike (the other one again)

24 March 2010 09:27

Morning everyone!

Nadia – Maybe he is that mysterious and silent third member?

It’s still raining here. I will start to dissolve soon.

The matches have dried up again. Or those with no information on display. How do they think that will work?

:-)

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Clinton

24 March 2010 19:24

If you’re talking about the spacemonkey then that would be me.

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Nadia

25 March 2010 01:45

Interesting fellas… was wondering who was who..
Spacemonkey – got it.
Mike TOOA – got it.

We gotta talk on ‘there’ instead some time. Get hold of Mike (original one), and where did the girls disappear to? Is everyone else loved up except me… again! God I feel cheated, yet again.
What happened to Garry??

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Clinton

25 March 2010 11:22

Sarah got someone and dumped us. Twee works a lot. Dunno about the rest.

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Garry

25 March 2010 18:36

I’m still around, from time to time :-) Busy trying to get a new contact sorted out atm (since I’m a contractor! ;-)

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Mike (the other one again)

25 March 2010 20:01

Ooh – this is no longer on the home page now so harder to find!

Garry – ahhh. Contractor. I will keep my lips together.

Okay … Nadia, SM(!), and chaps lets start a forum/threa/ whatever over there then – and drop hints on these articles to drag people over.

I have a bad back. Ouch.

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Suzi

27 March 2010 01:19

I have been with eharmony for a year now and nobody ever expresses n interest yet i am sent endless streams of totally disinterested matches. I’ve heard I’m not the only one with this problem. Do these matches actually exist? I do all the chasing and get almost zero response. I cant believe Im that unattractive! This has been a total waste of time and money.

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LeecA

28 March 2010 21:40

Hi everyone tonight I came across this E h site thinking well here is something different

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leeca

28 March 2010 21:52

All thanks for the entertainment tonight. You all sound great people with some entaining personalities comming through.. nice to hear, however, I have read through your comments before taking the plunge , and all I can say is those little voices that are with us to say yes go on do it and No don’t you know it wont work…they are now saying OMG I am totally confused what to do ……. there seems to be more action going on within this forum that on actual individual profiles … lol good luck to you all I think I will stick with the origianl old fashioned networking face to face ……and revisit my book feel the fear and do it anyway…..EH it is a shame that through out this me reading these comment you have reassured everyone that you are there as their support , which i thought as a valued based site would have been one of your own main values to your paying cutomers ….

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Nadia

30 March 2010 01:18

Mike TOOA – what does ‘SM’ mean? Also, I will reply to your loooong email about London soon I promise!

Garry – fear not, you can always go into construction or garbage collection. ;-)

Clinton – thanks for the advice!

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Clinton

30 March 2010 23:35

Think he might be referring to me; the great and omnipotent Spacemonkey. Not that I think the world revolves around me :)

It definitely revolves around whoever I end up with.

Dear eHarmony;

Perhaps you should consider only matching actual subscribers with each other instead of purely trying to expand your subscriber base by matching us predominantly with non-subscribers. Who you then hope will buy a subscription in order to read the messages we send them.

I almost feel as if I am your agent as opposed to a customer.

Regards,
C

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Suzi

1 April 2010 00:09

Clinton- I agree i keep being sent non-subscribers. The great silent majority!

Do you think EH bother to read these emails?

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Clinton

1 April 2010 08:52

They do, but in this case that would be messing with their business model :)

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eharmony

1 April 2010 09:38

Hi Clinton,

In response to your question about matching subscribers and non-subscribers, everyone who joins eHarmony and who successfully completes the Relationship Questionnaire is matched at first, as a non-subscriber. We give all of our members the opportunity to experience eHarmony’s matching process based on our Key Dimensions of Compatibility before subscribing.

However, only subscribers and non-paying members who are engaged in using the service are included in the matching pool. Once a non-subscriber is ready to start communicating with a match, he or she is required to join the service as a paid member. Many non-subscribers quickly transition to paid members.

Best wishes,
eHarmony Advice

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Clinton

1 April 2010 20:29

First of all, thanks for responding. Entirely unexpected.

However, I’d think that people who are serious about this exercise (and therefor probably subscribers) would at least look at my profile. Which doesn’t happen, not even when I try to get in touch.

I’d understand if I was closed but that doesn’t happen (much) either.

So you must be matching me with the few that don’t become subscribers. What rotten luck! :)

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Suzi

2 April 2010 00:44

Hmmm! Very corporate response indeed. We must all be experiencing rotton luck then!
My theory is that most people have been convinced to join EH by well meaning friends and family members and arent really committed to the process. Because we are sent matches rather than searching for ourselves, its quite a passive experience. nobody seems to be proactive. I’ve never made so many first moves!

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Clinton

2 April 2010 11:29

Well… there’s a free communication weekend coming up. Let’s see how many of these non-subscribers actually bother shall we?

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Mike (the other one again)

3 April 2010 12:05

Hi guys! Happy Easter!!!!

I do get closed a lot without views, but I think this might be just how people are. It happens on other sites too! You will get to see someone’s age and main profile pic without having to view their profile (I think) and some people feel that’s enough to reject/ignore on. Not me, but I’ve known it happen.

Nadia – nice to hear from you. Did I ramble on? I meant to put it in a forum thread …

Suzi – hi!

Have a great weekend everyone.

Mike.

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Garry

3 April 2010 13:13

Hi Mike,

I didn’t think it was possible to close a match without opening it first. Maybe they’re just anonymously viewing instead?

Garry

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Jackie

5 April 2010 12:53

I saw a profile of a bloke whose profile photo was of him and a celeb. The following photos had catchy comments about ‘next stop Hollywood’ etc. I didn’t even read his profile. I agree, it looks like you’re trying too hard and we just move on.
I agree with Alex, too many photos with kids and ‘look I’m a package’ or ‘look I’m a great Dad’ doesn’t send the right first impression. I would happily see someone who has kids, in fact I have just had my first date with someone who has kids and it went really well, but I don’t want it pushed in my face at the first hurdle.
Having said that, its great that you put photos on there, those that don’t, I could be missing out on a gorgeous looker but whats the point if the conviction isn’t there?!!!

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SheDee

5 April 2010 13:19

Oh dear… Decided to try this site after seeing the ad for the ‘free communication weekend’on the tv. I think you all sound great and funny and entertaining – and all that – but I must say the greatest thing you have all done for me, so far, is made me face up to the fact that I am PROBABLY not REALLY that interested in finding a partner in this way and encouraged me NOT to part with my hard-earned cash and sign up as a paying customer… Like LeecA think I’ll just stick to face-to-face networking. (Wondering, however whether any of you, from communicating on this forum,are now not interested in dating each other?…). Good luck, everyone!

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Amanda

5 April 2010 21:27

Okaaaay… considering joining the site, Have been sent 7 matches straight off 5 of which are 3 or 4 inches shorter than I am… is it some sort of a hook?

Not exactly inspiring me to hand over my cash…

Ax

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Suzi

5 April 2010 23:45

Hi everone,

Hi Mike.

EH- It would be helpful if non-subscribers were identified ie ‘ this match has not subscribed yet…at least you would then know who was genuine. finally have a date lined up after nearly a year!!!

Suz

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Clinton

6 April 2010 10:28

Amanda – even I know that women don’t really like going out with guys shorter than themselves. Even short girls want guys who are at least 6 feet tall :)

But I do think both sexes miss out because of this sort of stereotyping. One of those matches of yours might be the most perfect guy for you but you’ve dismissed him because of something relatively trivial.

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Clinton

7 April 2010 22:18

And Karma has dictated that I shall receive an icebreaker from a girl who is 6′ tall :)

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Sam (female)

9 April 2010 09:50

Hi,
I’m finding myself agreeing with most things said about the pictures, it’s so frustrating……you never know if they are bonafide members or not.
On a cynical note eharmony you don’t ever reply to the requests to change your policy, you only ever answer ones that are of a practical nature.
What confuses me is that all the women are saying blokes don’t reply and the men are saying the same- it doesn’t add up!
I’m very broad in my criteria and consider all matches sent to me but i still don’t get the replies

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Mike

9 April 2010 21:49

Obviously my friends theory about all the minimalistic matches with no pictures and our negative posts on the other thread struck a nerve , see the thread been moved from prime spot ……speaks volumes eH …….

I thought eH was different nope just hook you with loads of promises and take yer money

Sam it adds up coz it is pretty obvious that most of the profiles belong to people who went ages ago or never fully registered, one can see that from the number that actually view your profile after contacting them on average about 2/10

eH sent the answer to my questions direct to me.
So to repeat :-

They will not divulge how recent the profiles are to protect privacy..Huh!
All the other sites manage to say when member last logged on.

People can put photos of groups as long as they put a comment re which one is them….Nope had ones with no comments two today taken from about 200yrds away

Re having to open a useless profile ( ie distance/ age outside yer criteria) before you close it it gives you a second chance to assess the profile …Huh ! I thought the idea was eH matched you with ages/locations you specified so one didn’t get such profiles but I see one is starting to get matches with a disclaimer stating ” This match is outside your criteria but….” begs question what are we paying for ???

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Mike

9 April 2010 22:05

Clinton

Re height

I agree , one has only to look at the pics of shortie Bernie Ecklethingy and the obligitory long legged young ladies he courts , it is obvious that the “only” attraction for them is his short stature :-)
mmm I think Ms Merton summed it up once with another famous celeb

Someone who I have been in communication with (not on here) says she has to factor in her heels (two inches) when choosing a guy she is 5′7 so won’t date anyone under 5′10….Then you wonder why single

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Clinton

10 April 2010 19:37

It’s starting to look more and more as if we’re not actually paying for anything. And going through the whole process of trying to contact people that you know won’t respond is becoming a little tiresome. The whole point of this exercise was to make the process a bit easier, but that has not been the case.

After 6 months I’ve “communicated” with 5 people – none of whom I started the communication with because they lived too far away to be practical (where I live that smallest 30 mile radius includes most of Kent, most of Surrey and all of London – it’s just not workable). This has been a complete waste of time.

That said, the view here at 5′7 is brilliant. And it’s great for fencing because there’s less of me to get hit. Although on rainy days I get frowned at lots because any umbrella I hold is at eye-gouging height for “normal” humans. :)

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Mike

11 April 2010 13:25

All I can say to you mate is ….”Follow the yellow brick road ” ….

It was quite amusing at work two female colleagues were discussing using it ( they didn’t know I was on here) and advised me to save my money, if ever tempted, I felt like saying I have already found that out.

If eH just implemented the “when last logged in suggestion” and only sent matches from those that had logged in recently , they may keep more of their members , but probably would show up how many people on here are actually current, I suspect not a lot

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Sam (female)

13 April 2010 11:19

God How depressing this all is whilst being incredibly reassuring……EH earning lots of money for old rope as it were – EH why don’t you listen to your members? None of us would recommend ‘you’ as it stands and some of the suggestions would be really easy to implement

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Mike

13 April 2010 12:48

Mate
Like all these sites, none being any worse than the others , they prey on peoples loneliness and in some cases desperation in the hope of meeting someone, we are all, myself included guilty of falling for the promises of meting ones match and are happy to pay out hard earned cash….one soon learns and moves on like I will when my membership expires.
As I have said before one gets what one pays for and if one is serious in meeting someone either join a large social club or join a reputable dating agency , this is just playing at it and the chances of meeting Miss/Mr Right pretty hopeless as the odds stacked against you getting a current match with a picture that actually lives anywhere near you

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Mike

13 April 2010 13:05

If I had my way all such on line agencies would have to sign up to a code of conduct, some of the requirements being it did not put unused account profiles ( over 6mths old) into the pot and had to show when the member was last logged in.
The other codes would be a mandatory opt/in out box on joining re repeat billing and as most people pay with a credit card some way that the date of birth information ( held by credit card companies) could be accessed by agreeing ,this would stop people lying about age. Finally there is software on the market that can ensure that at least one of the pictures submitted is a “single” head shot ( identifies and centres on the eyes)

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Mike

13 April 2010 15:36

Mike (TOOA) if you are still using that forum can you email me again the link I saved it using my Ubisurfer (notebook) and for some reason all my bookmarks have gone.was gonna log in tonight..sorry to be a pain

Clinton….Just read though the posts glad you met up with Twee, do I need to buy a hat??

I have a date tonight but nowt to do with eH

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Suzi

13 April 2010 22:01

Hi fellow moansters!

You know i said I had a date after a year on EH. Well, he cancelled the night before because he met someone else! Can you believe it? Ive been stoodup, two-timed and dumped in one fell swoop, via email, without even going on the date!!!

Out of the hundreds of matches, over the months, only one has responed with a potential date. This is a total waste of money EH. I’m cancelling my subscription and going to warn everyone off.

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Mike

14 April 2010 00:25

Hi Suzie

Much as I hate to say it you can’t blame eH for this guy being an a&*e, if it had worked out you may have sung eH’s praises:-) .
I have had three closed messages tonight ( usually don’t have any) from women wishing to pursue other relationships,at least proved thay actually existed , I have also just got back from an actual date with a well nice lady (dating agency match) so fingers crossed …

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Michaela

14 April 2010 21:06

OMG everyone!I have only just started my profile with EH and after reading your comments feel I’m wasting my time.You all sound like great people, good communicators, so what is lacking with the sight? Why are you not having success (photo’s or no photo’s)? I haven’t (yet) included a photo. To be honest I’m a techniphobe, I tried and don’t want to ask my mates for help, didn’t really want them knowing what I’m up to just yet :) However, after reading your comments I will get on and get a photo added. My mates will be cool, as ever. I usually get chatted up when I’m out so know I’m bearable to look at (sounds big headed but you have said honesty is important – right?). Good luck everyone. By the way encase anyone goes looking for my profile, I don’t want anymore children ( I hope you get the humour in that) xx

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Michaela

14 April 2010 21:10

OOPs! after the I usually get chatted up bit :) I meant to add I was hoping to meet someone on the same mental wave length before photo’s were exchanged but you have made me change my mind. I think it was the buying a car before test driving it comment that did it!

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Clinton

15 April 2010 00:40

We went out a couple of times but I think in the end she might have just decided that we’re too different. She just stopped bothering to reply and I don’t run after anyone ever because I’m just not that desperate.

Heh. Just got asked to fill in a little eH website survey and told them that they suck :)

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Mike

15 April 2010 17:03

Hi Clinton

Sorry didn’t work out , wondered why she hasn’t appeared on here.A reply costs nothing

Yes I got the survey most questions scored a 1 , would I recommend this site …yer right !!!

I’m having quite a bit of luck with my dating agency , have actually had some meets, will be having my second date with one gal,it’s a bit pricey but better than this lottery and the gals actually exist

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Clinton

17 April 2010 07:47

Hehehe

Sammy: They’ve got the best business model in the world. You get paid upfront whether you deliver or not. AND you get to decide on the definition of “deliver”. We sent you matches – it’s not our fault that they don’t respond. Job done.

Michaela: Good decision. Looks aren’t important but I do find that I’m less likely to try and contact someone who doesn’t have a picture. I have tried to contact people without pictures if they have a really charming profile though.

Mike: I’ve started trying things the more conventional way. Just decided to try and be a bit less introverted and socialise a bit more. Painful as it may be. Now one of our managers (a hopeless romantic, bless) is trying to match me up with a friend of hers. She thinks we might make a good couple. Might be interesting.

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Mike

17 April 2010 12:50

Diversify mate, join some social clubs, you must have some interests even if coach spotting :-) Most cost about £100 a year, if pants try another one.
Have you tried singles holidays? some are companies that just do holidays others are dating outfits that also do weekends/weeks away. I have dated two gals over the years who I have met.

As I keep banging on about, eH even if they provided matches that responded is just a dabble and one can’t rely on it alone as even if they respond one still has to go four rounds before even start chatting.
Loads more today with no pictures , have over 25 in my communicating list that have not responded or haven’t closed me , the tumble weed blows through my inbox again :-)

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Clinton

18 April 2010 12:22

I am a member of a few clubs. And I study part-time. But joined these for the actual reasons that the clubs exist. In my class I can can discuss the subject at hand quite competently. I’m just not good at irrelevant small talk.

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Julia

30 April 2010 13:06

I usually delete profiles without photos or where there are no photos without sunglasses. I like to know who I’m communicating with, and assume anyone who feels the need to hide their identity also has something else to hide.

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carl

6 May 2010 13:42

Hey can anyone please tell me when they find you a date i know i haven’t been on long, basicly need to know if they are slow or fast that’s all???

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Clinton

8 May 2010 07:29

Bit difficult to explain Carl. They’ll find you plenty of “highly compatible matches” who never ever respond.

Mike. Your comment gave me some pause. So I asked out a girl at one of my clubs about a month ago. Things are going well.

As an example Carl, I’ve been off eH for that month and not one of my matches has tried to contact me. Enough said.

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Sarah

11 May 2010 16:01

Hi everyone, Timewaster here. After reading your comments have decided to subscribe elsewhere. Just wanted to thank you all for the entertainment – definitely the best thing on the site!
Mike (the one who wants children) – I had my first child at age 38 so you might like to up your age limit. Clinton – the sexiest man I ever went out with is 5.3. I’m 5.6 and if we lived on the same continent we’d still be together. Walk loud, live proud and for goodness’ sake let us all know how the dating is going, I have to know!
EH have sent me loads of “compatible” matches – they mostly just sound so boring and as you say no way of finding out if they are active or not. Am an ancient crone, but have just taken up surfing, so “matches” who list their occupations as watching TV are hardly going to float my boat.
EH – please find some way of making the most of these exchanges, they liven up a very “dead” site.
Sarah

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Cris

13 May 2010 06:57

On the subject of picture disasters, I think the worst I have seen is a woman eating a packet of crisps! The ones that make me smile are the full cleavage shots, or bra and panties with a request for men to be more respectful.

The reason that I think the responses on this site are so poor, is due to the high cost of actually getting to see anyone here. I suspect most people sign up expecting to see who they are likely to be introduced to at first and then find they have to pay a high fee just to see who has been matched with them. I think that the site would be more successful if you could see at least one photo or the initial subscription was lower. But then what do I know, I am not running a successful dating site. However I am having a lot of success in communicating with people on another free one.

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Kath

14 May 2010 13:30

Hi All

Reading all your comments has made me laugh, you all sound like lovely people. Im just sorry that I didn’t get to read your comments before signing up for 3 months membership. It sounds like a waste of money. I had thought that when I signed up I would be able to see more details than you could without signing up like when they were last active. I am disappointed that after 3 weeks I am only talking to one person after sending out a fair few ice breakers. Seeing when someone was last active would be a great benefit, other dating sites do this. I just feel that we are wasting time and money here, seeing people that I have been matched with and that they are probably inactive now.

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janeen

14 May 2010 20:51

just wanted to say that I have found it more interesting reading some of these wonderful comments than I have the profiles. I thought I was the only one who had problems with non-responders! so it has certainly made me feel better.

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RJ

19 May 2010 09:29

Sorry Karl & Al, I completely disagree with you.

Whilst I understand your concerns about publishing photos on the site, we all run the risk of our pictures being seen by people we know. If they do see our photos, then they must be on eHarmony too, so what’s the problem?

Also, this is a dating/relationship site. What differentiates romantic & platonic relationships is physical attraction. A man or woman could have the most wonderful personality, but if you don’t find them physically attractive, you’re not going to move beyond the platonic.

I’d much rather be upfront, show someone my photo & allow them to decide whether I’m their type (and vice versa), rather than go through the whole process only to be extremely disappointed when you meet.

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Sparkle

19 May 2010 12:24

Hi there,
This thread has cheered me up enormously. I keep being sent a mixture of irrelevant matches or matches with no pic/hardly any info.
Anyone fancy meeting up for a drink? We could have a “disgruntled Eharmony” night out. At least we’d all have giggle. Any one up for it?

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Clare

21 May 2010 01:51

I too have had trouble posting pictures…arghhh…they are not bad but i dont have many as i`m usually behind the camera…its so frustrating and although i did ask for help i am technophobic and dont know how to make it the size they want!!! Help?!

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eharmony

21 May 2010 09:54

Hi Clare,

It’s a pretty simple process to resize your photos to upload to your profile. The maximum photo size for eHarmony is 5MB, but the size your individual photos are depends on the settings on the digital camera they were taken on.

I’ve passed on your query to our Customer Care team and they will be able to send you through instructions on how to resize your photos (they know the best way to do this).

Hope this helps!

Best wishes,
eHarmony Advice

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Jules

26 May 2010 18:34

I wish I had bothered to read all these threads before I signed up for a month. I have been sent matches and as suggested sent out ice breakers but had hardly no response . The ones that have replied have lived miles away and after a while even they go quiet!You never know if someone is still active.Although the idea of this site is a good one it does not work. The matches I have been sent are not really suitable but I am half heardly going through the motions because I paid.I joined because I saw the site advertised on Tv . I work very hard and I do not meet as many people as I should.If I am in social situations I do get my fair share of attention from men but this site with its closed matches and no replies makes you feel like you are Shreks sister! Yes I DO know looks are only skin deep and I would never chose a partner just on looks but it beggars belief that someone you would not normally look at in real life just ignores you – I was looking beyond the photo because I had a match..lol. I think dating sites in general make people too picky as in if you are not a certain age or weight or height you are discounted. Men my age age are looking for someone younger despite the fact that I look a lot younger than they do.I think I it is better to try and get out and about and meet someone face to face rather than go through this palaver because no one person can be put in a box and why pay to get knocks on your confidence???

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sarah

27 May 2010 21:44

i can’t even upload a picture. i have used old ones , taken new ones. i have checked size and format and it will not let me. Really wish i had not bothered , what a waste of time and money!

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eharmony

28 May 2010 09:45

Hi Sarah,

I’ve passed on your query to our Customer Care team who will be in touch within 48 hours – they will be able to help you upload some pictures to your profile. Alternatively, you can call our Customer Care team on 0800 028 0308, for free, 8am-8pm.

Hope that helps!

Best wishes,
eHarmony Advice

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Claudette

28 May 2010 10:44

Hi
I have taken note of the photo guide, and recently was given the chance to attend a professional photo shoot. My photo’s are great, even when uploaded on my computer. But when uploaded on Eharmony all the photos are dark, I tried to use the tools given but that just makes them worse.
After using the tools, the best I can get is to make the photos red and or grainy, they look terrible. Help, please!

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Brian Grierson

28 May 2010 11:40

What a waste of time, this site is! Cannot upload photo, as poster above. Format and size is correct, but it just will not do. Promotion weekend will be over, before I can use! Without photo, it will not allow me to use the free weekend, even though photos are not shown for free. Don’t think I will bother with this site. Phoned call centre, and they said it was a bad line,Did nothing, for me.

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eharmony

28 May 2010 11:55

Hi Brian,

I’m sorry you’re having problems using the Photo Uploader. You can participate in our Free Communication Weekend without a photo, though of course we encourage users to upload a photo. I’m also sorry that there was a bad line to our call centre – this is not a common problem as far as I know, and I would encourage you to call our Customer Care team again, as they should be able to help you upload a photo.

Alternatively, you can email our Customer Care team using the following link – they will get back to you within 48 hours: http://help-singles.eharmony.co.uk/app/ask

I appreciate this will delay you uploading a photo for our Free Communication Weekend, but it does run until the end of Monday, and we have more of these events scheduled for later in the year, to give you more chances to get talking for free.

Best wishes,
eHarmony Advice

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eharmony

28 May 2010 12:04

Hi Claudette,

I’m sorry your photos aren’t appearing as you would expect using our Photo Uploader. There is a small possibility that your internet browser settings may be affecting how your photos are displayed. If you call our Customer Care centre (free phone, 8am-8pm) on 0800 028 0308 one of our team will be able to view your profile and hopefully troubleshoot why your photos are not appearing as they should.

Hope this helps.

Best wishes,
eHarmony Advice

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Juliet

10 June 2010 22:11

I think it’s funny (peculiar) that some of my matches have mentioned their ex-wives when asked who has had the most influence on their lives.I am not sure whether they mean a benign influence (she was some woman, I’ll never meet anyone as amazing as her again) or malign (she was a complete cow and I will never forgive and forget). I would avoid anyone who mentioned an ex-wife or girlfriend in their profile. Move on folks…

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Caroline

10 June 2010 22:52

Thanks guys, been on the site for about a week and came across this forum tonight, so funny, really enjoyed the banter. Think i’ll be checking this out before “My Matches” from now on.
x

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Lizzie

13 June 2010 21:06

I haven’t subscribed yet, nor have I uploaded a photo. I simply haven’t got a good one that I’d be happy for anyone to see even though I only have one chin and one (fairly flat) belly!
I’ve had a good laugh reading this forum and I’m wavering backwards and forwards about joining. One thing though, when I receive matches I change my preferences if I realise I’ve set them wrongly e.g. several were too old so I narrowed that range. It’s easy enough to do. The burning question is: Shall I stump up the cash?

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Denise

13 June 2010 23:30

Jules, I completely agree with you. Guess this wasn’t for me either…

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Rebecca

20 June 2010 10:59

I find the pictures of the guys kayaking through shark infested waters intimidating, i dont spend my weekends doing that!

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Hannah

22 June 2010 19:46

Just discoverd this forum and though I’ve only been a member for one week not doing too bad on matches. I wish I’d found this forum before signing up though, I might have thought twice about subscribing.

Mike I feel like you’re a friend already having read all your Forum postings lol. Very entertaining though ;-) No postings from Mike since April though, so ladies do we think he’s been snatched up or has his subscription run out and he’s gone back to Parships (or Parsnips as some called it) lol

Anyway good luck to all out there. Don’t give up! All you’re looking for is that “one” perfect match, it might take time but they are out there. Agree with Mike though don’t leave it just to this site alone to try and find someone.

oh and EH might be an idea if you reversed the order of the Forum dates, so that the latest posting shows at the top instead of having to scroll down each time?

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karen

30 June 2010 22:15

I wish I had found this before subscribing. Only been a paid up member for a few weeks but took only about 5 days to realise that most of the matches are not suitable and those that are, I have had no response from :( Had I read this I wouldnt have bothered. I tried to narrow the distance setting to my county but no Welsh counties in the list and the lowest radius from my hometown includes matches that live across the water.. way to far for datng in my view!!! Delete most of my matches because of distance without reading them!!!! Rubbish. Will stick to Plenty of Fish in future!!

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Clinton

2 July 2010 06:54

Thought I’d pop in and say hello :)

Well, yes. My advice would be to save your cash and just be a tiny bit bolder socially. Or maybe that’s just me :)

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Jo

4 July 2010 00:11

Just found you all here! I have been registered for a few months and apart from a few photo-nudges ( which are no use as I have no photos available as I am a complete twit on a PC), I have had no luck in meetng anyone !. Looking forward to going on a Saga singles holiday at this rate. Could have spent the registration money on a weekend treat instead. x

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Buzzer

4 July 2010 18:20

Jo,

Hang in there, I was registered for 8 months before I got into regular personal emails with someone. Be patient, you will get there. Ask a friend with IT knowledge to help you download a photo onto the system as you won’t get any interest without one.

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eharmony

5 July 2010 09:34

Hi Jo,

Thanks for your comment. Buzzer is exactly right – we know that users with photos are nine times more likely to get communication from their matches, so we’d strongly recommend posting a photo.

If you have a friend with a digital camera then that’s a great start. Get them to take a photo and then they can email you the image to upload to your profile.

If you’d like some additional help with posting a photo, please call our free phone help line on 0800 028 0308 (8am-8pm). Our customer care team will be happy to help you

Best wishes,
eHarmony Advice

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Jo

7 July 2010 22:41

Thanks Buzzer. I will persevere but it does get rather depressing. I have 20 so far that I am waiting for a response from: not so much of an ice breaker, more of a total freeze out.!!

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Wendy

10 July 2010 02:13

Im out of here, clearly a veggie and I’ve been matched with a butcher. No thanks!

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Glen

12 July 2010 12:40

While I do agree with and understand a lot of your comments about photos, I think your site could do with opening up a bit as far as photos go to present a profile.
Personally, I am not one of those who will judge a book by its cover.
And while how someone looks is nice and even important, I think it is more the substance of the person that will make them “LOOK” nicer in other peoples eyes.
I think you should do like they do on Facebook and enable a kind of photo gallery for people to put up photos of things, even if only things that interest them.
You do advertise that you are more than just a dating site and go on things deeper than appearances…

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Rachel

16 July 2010 15:49

Having just spent an enjoyable couple of hours reading through all these comments has confirmed everything I thought about eH – it is a complete and utter waste of money. I’m sorry I didn’t find this forum until I’d parted with my hard earned cash.Ilive right on the south coast so kept my distance criteria to within 50 miles – reasonable I thought. I don’t mind driving but fuel is too expensive to going trolleying up far North! So what do I get? Men from Wales the Midlands and the top end of Scotland and outside of my age criteria too! Does eH bother to take those criteria into account? The matches that I have been sent that I have contacted have not bothered to respond. How rude is that! Do I even want to bother with someone who has no common manners.I’m not unattractive and my attitude (as important as looks)is young and very active..
I’ve joined an activities group called SPICE I highly recommend to everyone. Not a dating site but exactly what it says on the box. Just about every activity or holiday you can think of. So far I’ve been on a narrowboat w/e and archery class and I’m off to a murder mystery weekend in Stratford in a week or so where there will be 95 members. Try it folks, I don’t think you’ll be disappointed. (I do not get commission from them to advertise – I am just really impressed with them).
Good luck to you all and I’ve enjoyed reading these comments so I’ll check in rather than look to see if I have any matches; funnily enough I’m getting them daily even though my subscription has expired.

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Luke

17 July 2010 23:12

I used to be in SPICE; I had to leave due to a stalker! But of course, that could just have been due to my stunning good looks and hot sports car…..

Back to photo sins; girls, you can break just about all the rules and stick up any pic you like, and guys will still write to you. Try putting up a pic of your saggy old teddy bear, and you’ll still get guys complimenting you on your good taste, if nothing else!

Guys; you could try the pic of the hot sports car (if you’re not a kind of Greek god, like me….); although for God’s sake cut out the showroom in the background….

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Leon Oldbury

15 August 2010 21:35

there is one crime worse than posting a bad photo and that is not posting a photo at all. I wish there was a way to stipulate that I want no more suggestions that do not have a photo. Looks are not everything, I know, but they are a great deal because one picture paints a thousand words.

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Steve

19 August 2010 15:57

I agree, I dont think a profile should be allowed to go live until it has been filled in AND a photo attached.

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elaine

21 August 2010 02:00

I agree, profiles should not be allowed to go live until a photo has been posted.It seems to me that those who say – “well, we can exchange photos later” just haven’t thought it through. Put it this way: if I am contacted by someone WITH a photo, and I don’t like the photo, I can just say,”sorry, I don’t feel we’re well matched.” But if I was to get into conversation with someone, THEN exchange photos,and I don’t like the photo… what can I say??! The other person then is painfully aware they are being rejected because of their looks, which nobody likes.It is so embarrising to have to do this that I simply prefer not to get into communication with people without photos.

As well as photos, i don’t think a profile should go live until the person has paid their subscription.. It is frustrating to go to the trouble of contacting potential matches only to find that they cannot read or reply to your message becasue they have not bothered to subscribe. If people wish to browse the site before subscribing, that is fine, but their profiles should not be posted.

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Steve

21 August 2010 22:11

anyone who says ““well, we can exchange photos later” does that ‘cos they at some point had a photo and got no interest so they are trying to get a foot in the door and then reveal their pic once you have got to know them.

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Steve (a different one)

28 August 2010 02:12

Having read the remarks above I’m not so sure I’ll be parting with any cash any time soon.

I haven’t posted a photo just yet as I don’t really have any recent ones where I don’t look tired and fed up but I would agree wholeheartedly that one should have at least one picture.

I seem to be getting around a dozen “matches” each day with the odd one or two nudging, poking or otherwise interfering with me in some way.

As a non paying member I cannot currently view any profile pictures but I’m amazed to hear that some women on here post cleavage or bra/pants pictures on here – do they really think men are that shallow?

Given that I’m male and have a pulse such pictures would attract my attention but if “that” was all I was looking for I could get “it” fairly easily and without having to part with any cash.

I’m kind of testing the water just now but I have to say that this part of the site appears to be the best bit. And very entertaining.

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andrew

30 August 2010 14:56

clinton twee mike and the rest
your rants amuse me
been on here 3wk n not even been viewed once for over 2 wk
thought i,d joined a dating site however now i realise ive joined a welcome to the cemetary club
dont know how youve all kept your sanity being on this site so long
as martin gore wrote
“i think that gods got a sick sense of humour and when i die i expectto find him laughing ”
rant over ive now got to work out how to get the lid off the prozak bottle !

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Steve

31 August 2010 00:02

sorry it isn’t going well for you Andrew. I’m also getting very little responses (I think out of the usual daily 6-10 matches hardly any are still using the site). I think there must be a better way of running a site like this – what’s the problem? is it that the subscription is too high? or is it insufficient advertising? Also it’s been a “free communication” weekend – what I’ve found is that they can email but dont see your pic – pointless.

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